No quitten we're whelan on to chitchat 11

01-08-2023 05:44PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120926774#Comment_120926774

Knock you flat on your back at 100 yards it would.

Say my name · 01-08-2023 08:08PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120924395#Comment_120924395

The Accumulation book gives plans on how to make an accumulator. Basically back in the 60's, 70's, 80's this was more of a thing in the US. Before the blue pill this was said to give "energy" to a human. Sean Connery sat inside one of these boxes regularly.

Reich also said this energy was a disadvantage to cancer. DeMeo goes into nuances of this. DeMeo also goes into water and how it can give and adsorb energy. Goes how salted water can draw out bad energy from a human.

On the accumulator Reich said metal attracts energy and organic matter stores it. So the box or accumulator is made in layers of steel and carbon. Steel wool, sheep's wool. Steel sheet, Fibreboard type of thing.

Reich developed this thought to Cloudbusting machines. He developed them by steel pipes aimed at clouds with the intention of breaking up the clouds or attracting them for rain depending on the wind direction. The steel pipes had to be in running water to work. Followers of his used the technology around the world. Even employed by the Eritrean government for a time.

Kate Bush wrote a song on Reich and his subsequent arrest.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pllRW9wETzw

Say my name · 01-08-2023 08:18PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120924395#Comment_120924395

Curiosity book give two,three,four pages on a farm - farmer and at the end of the piece bullet points on what regenerative practice worked for them.

There's 54 chapters. All bar a couple on money management, with a different farm in New Zealand.

Packrat · 02-08-2023 01:18AM

When I was doing the organic course, the instructor (a South African guy) asked if any of us knew anything about biodynamic farming. We all said no, - never heard of it and someone asked what it was.. Explanation came - planting crops with phases of the moon, putting cow dung into the horn of a once calved cow and burying it etc...

When I suggested that this sounded like quackery or belief in magic, he got very cross and said that it was "well proven"

He had seemed like a very reasonable fella up to that point with well thought out positions.

My subsequent googling confirmed that it is exactly that - magical belief and unproven nonsense, but his reaction was interesting, - a little like how the green religion believers go nuts when presented with anything which doesn't fit their belief system.

I hate religion of all descriptions in equal measure to quackery.

Makes me wonder about organics... but using no expensive fert and collecting a sub for same cant be a bad thing.

Say my name · 02-08-2023 08:19AM

Googling can't get you into the fields of those doing it though.

It can't tell you that farmers are using 501 as a desiccant instead of round up.

It can't tell that biodynamic and non biodynamic farmers use and buy 504 because they see the value of using it.

The use of silica increases carbon sequestration it's well proven by loess soil.

If you lock yourself off and look for feign superiority through ignorance you're at nothing.

02-08-2023 11:11AM

Watching the weather forecast the last evening, I had to remark on the presenter talking of our Summers predicted to get warmer and drier (I'm all for it), versus other predictions that we're going to be Northern Canada 🤷‍♂️

Packrat · 02-08-2023 11:41AM

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No, but it's been around for a very long time and any investigations by independent bodies have found no verified positive or negative effects.

Googling can find quite a bit of info on it and on its origins and proponents.

I wasnt attacking yourself in any way.

I find your contributions here and in other threads very interesting and I've no doubt some of them work well for you.

I also agree completely with your last sentence, and that's not what I'm about at all.

I don't however have time to test every single claim of a system which has been dismissed as quackery by those who did so i take their results at face value. Molecular structure of soil and plant biology is as far as I'm aware pretty well understood.

The very fact that it's proponent got angry when questioned wasn't a good look, and leads me to believe that it's more a religion than a science.

Say my name · 02-08-2023 12:03PM

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He probably hadn't the time to explain it properly.

I attended a full 2 day course on bioD and it only barely brushed on what it was. Being on the farm of a practitioner helped my farmer sense see what they could see and what benefits or changes it brought from when they started.

It can't really be brushed off though. Even from a marketing perspective it's there now and founded. It's an advantage if you have biodynamic on the label of what you're selling. If you're organic already it's a no brainer to maybe go for certification. But that depends too if can get value from being so. But even myself I know I will be picking aspects of it for the farm here. And I'm non organic nor fully bioD.

But for organic it will/should increase carbon sequestration in soil and if you've crops bring evenness in ripening.

blue5000 · 02-08-2023 01:53PM

I’ve met the lad from S Africa. Based in Leitrim I think? Didn’t come across as preachy to me anyway.

As to biodynamics I have to admit the jury is still out, but like SMN there are aspects of it that make sense to me. Like planting crops during certain phases of the moon for example. Water is affected by the moon’s gravity, just look at high tides. Its not impossible that maybe water reaches seeds quicker and they germinate faster during certain moon phases is it?

Now I have to admit I don’t get the logic behind burying horns etc. but the lads across the road here are into it and all I really know about them is that they grow a fantastic crop of ragwort every year.

farawaygrass · 02-08-2023 02:02PM

I saw my own father only squeezing calves when the moon was in a certain phase, and same with his veg garden. He also spoke of other such practices that the older generation before him used. He never pushed any of them on me so I never got into them and often was sorry to have lost the information. Imagine if it went full circle and became common knowledge again

02-08-2023 02:12PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120930175#Comment_120930175

Tell him you don't believe in lime 😀

Base price · 02-08-2023 02:30PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120930242#Comment_120930242

As a child I remember my Granny and latterly my Mam getting fierce excited when they had broody hens sitting on fertile eggs and there was thunder and lightening. Other ones I remember was throwing a few fist fulls of oats on the ground, when milking cows squirting a few strigs onto the ground and if you let salt fall throwing some over your left shoulder - there are lots of others that I can't recall but hopefully other F&F's may.

Most of them were piseogs but I suppose the majority of those beliefs are well forgotten now.

Say my name · 02-08-2023 03:04PM

The burying the horns to me is take what that Reich fella said. Energy is stored in organic matter.

Now Reich, Steiner, Einstein and the whole thoughts coming from space and nuclear physics was all around the same time in history and mostly same part of Europe.

The energy Reich would be talking about would be cosmic rays from space and solar particles from the sun. Steiner was on the same page.

The horn burying with the manure and silica or silica on it's own is to take advantage of the Solar particles or Cosmic rays depending on time of year. The rays or particles hit the ground, through the soil get bounced around in the horn and some part is adsorbed by the manure and silica in the horn before moving on through. Now this was made up at a time before we knew silicon chips or quartz batteries could store information or power. Burying them in the ground protects them from uv rays which deletes that information or kills the bacteria which there undoubtedly is involved in this. So however whether psychedelics or plain luck Steiner does seem to have hit on something. The timing of day to apply is also crucial. In the morning or evening. There's your uv rays killing biology. And this is from the 1920's.

And there's people nowadays going out with biological products in full sun in 2023 and putting it up on social media and thinking they're great people.

And back one hundred years ago.🤷‍♂️

I says · 02-08-2023 04:55PM

The fraudulent E flow texts are out again.

roosterman71 · 02-08-2023 06:15PM

Someone reporting to be from "Revolut" are on the phones too trying to scam.

I'm sure ye all know by now but just in case - never click on links in messages or give any personal details on calls

whelan2 · 03-08-2023 05:39AM

I got 4 calls supposedly from amazon on Tuesday. All different numbers

DBK1 · 03-08-2023 12:09PM

https://www.gov.ie/pdf/?file=https://assets.gov.ie/261088/2570f014-3920-4768-924a-e96fde6de4ef.pdf#page=null

Farm Safety Measure announced.

60% grant available on up to 4 pto shaft covers and 2 quad helmets.

A worthwhile measure and my advice would be that every farmer should pick up a few pto covers that suit your machinery.

Only available until end of September

emaherx · 03-08-2023 02:50PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120934159#Comment_120934159

Absolutely, just got the text from DAFM and submitted expression of interest on Agfood. Was just about to replace 2 covers anyway but may have a look at other machines now too. I'm sure I could find 4 worn ones if I'm honest, but could probably salvage some spare parts from them too, to make sure all covers are in good shape.

DBK1 · 03-08-2023 03:06PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120934938#Comment_120934938

I’ve 2 I think due to be replaced but I’ll be buying 4 anyway and keep 2 as spares. They’ll be needed at some stage in the future.

patsy_mccabe · 03-08-2023 04:11PM

Can you get the quad helmet without having a quad? Sell on then on Donedeal. Reminds me of the bike scheme a few years back.

ruwithme · 03-08-2023 10:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120935341#Comment_120935341

Me & you think a like patsy. Them oul quads should be banned anyways.

tanko · 03-08-2023 11:01PM

Has the price of PTO covers and helmets doubled yet??

straight · 04-08-2023 06:13AM

All of my PTO covers are in PWO. Don't see the point of quad helmets. I have a few motorbike helmets in the shed that I don't use. Mad how easy it is to manipulate people with a bit of a grant.

148multi · 04-08-2023 06:33AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120933154#Comment_120933154

Can you post numbers here ?

Esel · 04-08-2023 06:59AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120937507#Comment_120937507

Number is more than likely (or definitely) spoofed.

emaherx · 04-08-2023 07:24AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120937499#Comment_120937499

Shocking... Imagine the nerve encouraging people to protect themselves.

emaherx · 04-08-2023 07:25AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120935041#Comment_120935041

They need to be fitted if inspected.

wrangler · 04-08-2023 07:52AM

One of my tenants is rumored to have bought another 50 acres during the week.

They have just finished a 200+ cow shed so dairy farmers aren't broke yet.

roosterman71 · 04-08-2023 08:49AM

What's the going rate for sheds these days?

straight · 04-08-2023 09:08AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120937562#Comment_120937562

People shouldn't need encouragement to protect themselves. I had a serious motorcycle accident before and a helmet didn't save me. Maybe a quad helmet would give some people a false sense of security to take more risks.

The biggest risk I see with our quad is getting your head sliced off with a wire across a roadway or getting overturned. Helmet ain't gonna help then. Just my opinion like.

No quitten we're whelan on to chitchat 11

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