Dublin GAA Discussion Thread: Mod Note - No 'Dublin Dominance' chat allowed!

The hop wasn't debatable.

Nobody in Ireland outside of Dublin would agree that Mannion is better than Clifford.

Clifford already has more All Stars and a POTY.

Mannion's a great player though. I thought he was a huge loss when he left the panel.

I think he's the best forward in Dublin. Much more consistent than Con.

They wouldn't.

Lots of people consider Maurice Fitz the greatest. He has only 2 AIs and for the second one he was a sub.

He was part of a weak Kerry team for most of his career.

He was winning all stars while not even winning Munster.

I bet even if you asked Brogan and Rock, they would tell you Clifford is better than them.

Con could have hit 1-2/3 on another day. Spilled a couple balls which is unlike him. Costello and Kilkenny would always be good for a couple scores at least. Dublin not reliant on one/two forwards as someone usually steps up. We didn't play anyway near out potential but got the win which is number one.

Cian O'Sullivan has two Kerry parents. Brogan and Fenton one each. Costello also. Johnny Sexton also.

I'm sure there's loads more. I'm sure also lots of Dublin players were coached or taught by Kerry people.

This article goes into more detail.

Kilkenny used to make runs into the channels, play a one-two fist pass around the D, and kick points off either foot.

He doesn't seem to do that anymore.

I don't mind anyway.

I'm with Jack McCaffrey when he said the most important metric is participation.

I think more focus should be put on the other counties. Promoting the game, improving counties so they can compete at an appropriate level.

Someone recently made the interesting point that the GAA are wasting Clifford.

He shouldn't be working as a teacher, he should be going around to schools and clubs promoting the game. I know this might not be possible as he has a child and partner and other commitments like training and gym work etc.

He's the first GAA superstar. We may not see his like again.

That's self-explanatory.

It's a different world now with TikTok and social media.

Anyone from Dublin won't be loved outside Dublin anyway.

But Kerry people are loved everywhere.

Yeah, that comment frightened the fckin life out of me. He said it with such certainty and almost a kind of bullishness and I hate to think of whats coming through after 13 years of domination already.

Also his comment about when he walked back into the set up he knew they'd win the all Ireland. That's elite mentality.

Em there were letters that found their way to Pat Spillane - with no proper address on them

'That B0llocks,

Pat Spillane.

RTE'

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I can remember him being highly amused by that when he mentioned it on TSG or wherever.

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Kerry people don't even like some Kerry people -

Tomas O'Se had serious issues with Jack O'Connor in his first management stints as senior manager

Jack O'Connor even described himself as 'a truculent b0llocks' in his own autobiography.

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The real county the Country 'loves' is Dublin. Most 'neutrals' 'love to hate' - Dublin.

By either laughing at Dublin when they underachieve, or begrudging Dublin's success when Dublin win.

I cannot think of any other county in Ireland where many 'neutrals' want to see Dublin lose.

Although, admittedly for the first time in a long time in the last days Final - many 'neutrals' were conflicted (the impression I got) they didn't know who they wanted to lose more. Most Cork people must have went for a long walk last Sunday for example...

From my experience anyway i think as many neutrals would shout for Dublin as they would Kerry. Even with all we have won in last 13 years i met quite a few over the weekend that were hoping we would win.

I got the impression that Jack MCaffery was speaking generally setting the example for future Dubs etc. He did speak really well though and was well aware of the example he is setting.

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Hopefully, that this AI will spark a next generation to come through - and get ingrained in GAA instead of the more glamorous 'foreign sports'. I don't know of any youngster coming through that there there is chatter about to be honest.

But at this stage I would take solid players - who do a job nothing flashy. There will be a hunt for fresh blood in the O'Byrne Cup league etc.

I think there will be more interest than usual in the O'Byrne Cup from Dublin fans. to see if any new players could make the grade at senior.

No doubt Kerry will have a few 'next best things' bubbling under, they always do!

Imagine if there was social media after the 1983 All Ireland final. I'd say we were at the height of being disliked after that game. I used hear insults in the 90s about 'Only the dirty Dubs would kick a man on the ground'.

The team from 2011 to now have been so exciting to watch that i feel we gained the support of a lot of neutrals again. In a time when the blanket defence was threatening to be the next big thing this team dismantled that idea with players full of skill and front foot football. I don't get the feeling we are hated universally. There will always be some who do but there's a deep down respect there i feel that has been earned the hard way.