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This week's EV bargain that I'm not buying

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  • #3452
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,114 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120901515#Comment_120901515

    Yes, we've kept in contact. And yes imho €25k for a Performance Model S is huge value for money.

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • #3453
    SteelyDanJalapeno
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,401 ✭✭✭✭SteelyDanJalapeno


    And that's the donedeal price! We all know they accept a few K less if there's cash in your hand



  • #3454
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,114 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120901705#Comment_120901705

    Utter bargain there for someone who can jump in and wave the cash (or Revolut)!

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • #3455
    User1998
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,639 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    Seller seems to have reduced the price from €30k and states ‘no offers’. But there’s always room for some negotiation



  • #3456
    positron
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,471 ✭✭✭positron


    I see at least two Model S ads on Donedeal, including the one above, that mentions "battery replaced" by Tesla. Apologies if a silly question - I guess they are talking about THE big battery that powers the car? Probably replaced under warranty (which google says is 8 years / 150k miles, but not sure if that's for Ireland or US). Is the end of warranty period the reason for price drop I wonder.



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  • #3457
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,114 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120902448#Comment_120902448

    Yes, the big HV / traction battery. And on all but the most recent Model S, the warranty was 8 years unlimited mileage. So the full 8 years. So if you buy a 2017 Model S with a million miles on it, it still has 2 years of battery and drivetrain warranty.

    If the battery was replaced in recent years, the risk of it failing again is minimal. By far the most common reason for failure was water ingress, which was later sorted. Also even if the car is a write off, the battery modules (16 of them I think in an early Model S 85), are still worth around $900 each on eBay!


    Battery replaced (with evidence) is a must on pre-facelift cars, otherwise I wouldn't touch one. Unless of course it is dirt cheap.

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • #3458
    Raoul
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,952 ✭✭✭Raoul


    So would there be any warranty with the car then? Or as the previous poster said it is out of warranty?



  • #3459
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,114 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120903117#Comment_120903117

    On which, the 2014 Tesla Model S? No. It is over 8 years old now, so zero warranty left.

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • #3460
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    People are really hung up on the battery warranty. It's not like all 2nd hand cars are a risk.

    I bought an 8 year old car a few years back. 6 months in the DMF started knocking and before I could get that looked at the Head Gasket went. Sucks but luck of the draw



  • #3461
    creedp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭creedp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120903266#Comment_120903266

    What did it cost to fix and how long did it take to get back on the road?



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  • #3462
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120903319#Comment_120903319

    It was going to be €2,000 for the DMF and can't remember the gasket price (another 2K plus more if it's not a straight forward swap?).

    When I factored that in and a trade in I wasn't going to sunk cost it and bought a Volvo, which I am still driving years later with (touch wood) the only thing I've had to fix is a door lock actuator.

    Admittedly it was a shitbox SantaFe but it just proves the point that 2nd hand is a gamble. I would feel safer buying that Tesla than my own Volvo presently (they are the same age), given Unkel has done all the remedials



  • #3463
    k123456
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭k123456


    What's the Ccs upgrade mentioned , please



  • #3464
    zg3409
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,281 ✭✭✭zg3409


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120903443#Comment_120903443

    It's a charging connector. CCS tends to be faster and more common connector these days so many older Teslas have change the connector on the car to CCS to allow charging at ionity and other sites with CCS only.



  • #3465
    graememk
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,265 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120903443#Comment_120903443

    Early model S could only charge at a supercharger or with a chademo adapter.

    CCS upgrade allows it to use the CCS too.



  • #3466
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,114 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    And you can buy a CHAdeMO adapter (got mine brand new for €99 incl shipping from Tesla), which would give the above Tesla fast charging on EVERY SINGLE fast charge point in Ireland - CCS, CHAdeMO and Tesla Superchargers. No other car can do that, only Tesla Model S and Tesla Model X. And then there are well over 1000 "slow" charge AC points in Ireland where the car can still charge at 22kW. More versatile than any EV has ever been or ever will be...

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • #3467
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,114 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    P85 sold. It's coming back to Lucan 😁

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • #3468
    bootser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 292 ✭✭bootser


    Hi all,

    so sold my Ioniq 28 today😭 BUT picking up the ID3 tomorrow😁 Was always planning on an Ioniq 38 but this car was geographically close, seems really great value and will close to double my range from the I28! And having seen and test drove it today it's a real stunner! Thanks for all the advise it definitely helped make the choice.



  • #3469
    everlast75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,796 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Seems to be zero percent finance on Cupra in Bright (?) motors..

    Mind you, the base price of the Born seems to be higher than other garages?

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • #3470
    yoke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭yoke


    I ended up buying the P85 - car drives great and seems mechanically perfect and very well maintained.

    The seller was a really nice guy and had some very nice things to say about you Unkel 😀

    Only nitpick I have is with the front headrest design, which is non-tiltable - I’m going to have to find a solution to avoid getting a crick in my neck.. something like this product perhaps:

    https://fixheadrest.com/blogs/news/3-key-facts-about-headrest-tilt-angles



  • #3471
    Paul Kiernan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭Paul Kiernan


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120906475#Comment_120906475

    Congratulations and well wear. I spent most of yesterday afternoon mulling it over and by the time I finished mulling it was gone! I don't know if I'd have had the balls for it. You'll almost certainly have some ongoing maintenance costs but the overall cost of motoring for such a fantastic car will still be very low. I'm more than a bit envious.



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  • #3472
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,114 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Well wear @yoke - you got the car for an incredible price 😁

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • #3473
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,337 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120889855#Comment_120889855

    Did you ever take a look at the ID.3? I saw it went down from €25k at while back

    I feel like at that price there's something wrong with it or the seller is trying to get rid of it quickly

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • #3474
    bootser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 292 ✭✭bootser


    Yep, looked at it and made an offer! In the process of buying it atm. Couldn't fault the car, the only issue was a small dent and the bumper to bumper warranty is basically up but the battery and drive train is good for another 70k kms so... 😁



  • #3475
    bootser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 292 ✭✭bootser


    Tbh I think I had a similar issue with a low price on my own I28!



  • #3476
    Mr Q
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭Mr Q


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120907179#Comment_120907179

    I have an ID.3 and they are dropping in value very fast.

    Had an offer from Autobuy in late May and another one this week. 4k difference in their offer over 2 months.



  • #3477
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,467 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120907358#Comment_120907358

    The ID3 (and the used EV market in general) has seen a drop in prices as they return to normal.

    The reason for the ID3 is probably a combination of a facelift coming, it only being a 4 seater in most guises, and the tesla price drops.



  • #3478
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,114 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120907376#Comment_120907376

    And there are hundreds of ID.3 for sale. Only the best value ones will sell.

    It's not just the electric car market that has fallen BTW, prices are hugely down everywhere and it's a total buyer's market. Can even see it in the vintage cars market. It's actually a bit worrying as very shy demand is usually not a good marker for the state of the economy.

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • #3479
    Raoul
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,952 ✭✭✭Raoul


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120906807#Comment_120906807

    I'm the exact same!



  • #3480
    liamog
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 6,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120907376#Comment_120907376

    There's only one spec of the ID.3 that's a 4 seater. The normal specs of ID.3 were 5 seats it was only the tour with the pano roof that was restricted to 4 seats.



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  • #3481
    slave1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,482 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120906475#Comment_120906475

    Try something like this, you can get a no-name one from AliExpress for around €5 and they work real well

    GUIYUN Neck Pillow Car Seat Waist Pillow Fit for Model 3 Y S X Compatible for Tesla Model 3 Y S X Accessories Customized Car Headrest Pillow : Amazon.co.uk: Automotive

    My stuff on Adverts, mostly Tesla Pre Highland Model 3

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