Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

Glanbia cenus out this week, asking would you be interested in the dairy reduction or exit scheme

how many cows you would reduce by etc

My vets 5 kids all got north of 600 points in the leaving cert. 1 doctor, 1 solicitor, 1 dentist and 2 actuaries. None even contemplated being a vet.

Where do they spend all the cash? Whatever about a few grand here or there, or working around the edges with expenses to reduce tax. But large amounts of cash aren't very useful unless building a house.

There is a lot of older dairy men with no family interested in milking cow’s going forward and labour hard to get, one neighbour has two sons and a daughter and the only one interested is a 16 year old grandson who helps at the weekend. The day always comes on dairy farms where lads get fed up milking, another neighbour is giving up doing the milking at drying off and he is 74 years old the son does all the other work and hates milking and looking for a milker for next spring and if doesn’t find one he say he will get out. Dairy is a 7 day job and new entrants are finding this hard to get relief milkers.

Agree what your saying about easier money, the guy that doesn’t like milking is talking about contract rearing or going into incalf heifer job of buying calves and bringing then to point, as for the pigs expecting lads to work for nothing they are everywhere, and the days of treating lads like dirt is gone, back in the day of the old farm apprentice that was some hardship if you drew one the important dairy farms you were a slave and turned so many lad’s away from farming. Like the lads complaining about relief milkers looking for too much money, what would they want for to go and do milking for someone else, milked cows for a good number of years outside the day job in all types of parlours and had lads ask why won’t you milk for me and the quick answer always was would you milk for you in your parlour end of conversation.

Agree totally what you’re saying, the guy I was talking about earlier with the father milking the cows at 74 is one of these fella’s. All about what he has and what his buying and just split from the second wife and how lucky the lads that have worked for him are, when he comes into the local pub lads drink up and go home or move to the bar,. Never worked a day outside the farm. In France all young farmers have to go to a different type of farm from the home farm and out of the country if at all possible before installation. Now every young person Should get out of country before going home to farm.

If he has paid the tax on his own money isn't it up to himself how it's spent. No one is responsible for how I pay my tax only myself

Was sent to a serious pig of a man on dairy placement was verbally abusing us on a daily basis, he had gotten in a contractor with a saw head to do ditches cutting down good 12 inch thick bows along the fences which he sent us to pull from ditches, tidy up with loader obviously the fence was destroyed from falling bows, cattle got out of a field in adjoining block, was my fault of course for "wrecking fence" was no power getting to it was a digger man their at the time and I'd seen my chance he started roaring at us for the above I walked towards him faced him down and asked him what kind of a stupid c**t he was that he even thought the fence would still be intact after your man dropping trees on it, was going to kill the f**ker and with your man their I had a witness if he went to get physical, he turned heel and walked off muttering to himself once I faced him down, he never opened his mouth again after that.....

Digger man who done his sheds for him aswell was saying this was what he was doing to all his students through the years, he was that bad even with your man's employees, he was warned off going near them when they where concreting his tanks

That's not the case, if they deem that person to be an employee rather than a contractor then you are responsible for the tax

If your in a company, drawing out cash is only costing 12.5% tax?

I reckon the gloves will be off soon enough as regards coops going outside there area into other coops catchement looking for milk…..def in tirlan case

I'll be gone from them here first chance I can get another supplier to take us on, their the most heavily indebted processor by a country mile too, I reckon they'll have money issues down the track too

Drawing cash for personal spending would be taxed as income. What ever rate your on.