Tesla Talk

Ah, I didnt see the used imports option!

Someone posted here that the SIMI stats showed around 200 Model Xs in Ireland. I mentioned it to one of the Tesla mobile engineers and he said there was definitely more than that but wouldn't go into detail. I assume there are far more MS than MX here.

I just checked Beep Beep myself and came up with 276 MX and 222 MS which seems odd.

I haven't seen any 2022 MX on the road. I wonder if they were mis-classified MYs?

Likely. There might have been misclassification of Model X vehicles in Ireland, and it's possible that they were not produced in right-hand drive (RHD) for that market.

The price cuts are probably due to their profits and stock price fall. This could be due to the bad press they are getting lately. e.g. https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-batteries-range/

Come off it. Read this thread from the start, plenty of Tesla criticism in it, even from people who you call fanbois. Personally I've taken Tesla to court 4 times because parts of their organisaton are crap and they resort to bullying. Won all 4 times.

Just bullying really and using threatening and scare tactics. Taking away my free supercharging and then refusing to reimburse me for all the supercharging I had to pay for myself, refusing to refund deposits, that sort of stuff. The customer service and legal teams that cover Ireland are based in the UK and their staff not only seem pretty incompetent (thinking they know it all about the Irish legal system, presuming it's the same as over there, numerous incorrect facts in their legal documents), they are rude too. If only I were a lawyer myself, I would have ripped them apart legally.

Would you mind summarising your misfortunate dealings with Tesla? I am curious how they mistreated you

Range is often the focus from new owners who assume that the Tesla quoted range (WLTP) is what the driver should expect to achieve (or close to it) in the real world (I was the same). In reality all car manufacturers use this metric, as a universal standard which allows meaningful comparison across vehicles.

Understanding how the expectation is formed doesn't mean that it is fair, as it over simplifies the more complex area of these metrics (WLTP, EPA etc) and what they actually mean. Despite what people assume, none of these are promoted as being what you actually achieve in real world, as there are many components some controllable (acceleration, accessories AC, single of multiple journeys) and some not controllable (outside temperature, elevation etc).

For those interested I attach a link which I found helpful in terms of a deeper understanding of these metrics.

I agree 100% that you should keep an open mind (for avoidance of doubt I did read the article) but use of the term "fanboyism" of itself may indicate a bias.

@slave1 - "WLTP is just a standard to (poorly) compare every car on the road, EPA is achievable in a Tesla at Summer time in my Model 3."

That's actually a very good point. There are only a few EVs that can consistently achieve their rated EPA and WLTP (very similar methods with often very similar ranges) in real life (but not at 120km/h)

The only ones I can think of are (in historical order) BMW i3, Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh and Tesla Model 3

Range is important to me as I do a lot of long journeys for work. But Ive never given a second thought to worrying about my actual 'useable capacity'.

As @JOL1 posted above, driving style and climatic conditions will pay a huge part in affecting your range. For what its worth I only have a 50kW NCA battery that I charge to 90% as per Tesla's reccomondation, so I have a bit of quick forward planning is need. Tesla's router planner and energy meter is also brillant for doing this very quickly and is deadly accurate - I place huge reliance on this in getting me to where I need to go.

Having a good awareness of the charger network is also helpful in this country. This is changeing at times as there are still regions where you may need to rely on a SPOF charger or subject to peak demand.