Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

ratracer · 21-07-2023 10:19AM

Waiting for a signing……..

atilladehun · 21-07-2023 10:33AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120877437#Comment_120877437

I agree we need to plan for VVD but right now, this season, Trent is going to start moving into cm. We need cover and flexibility there first. At the moment any of our cbs can cover vvd.

If we sell matip or gomez then I'd get a LCB.

On jones, I'm excited but we still need a top level CM. We have to plan for a 60 game season. March could have PL games vs city and Everton. EL games vs top European teams. FA cup vs utd, all off the back of a LC final.

There's no starting midfield for me. We need 8 really good ones.

Trent

Soz

McAllister

Jones

Elliot

Baj

IncognitoMan · 21-07-2023 11:31AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120873919#Comment_120873919

I see lots of Liverpool fans both online and IRL that fully believe they are the best positioned team to challenge City next season. Not a team in the middle of a rebuild.

And I can understand why -

Improvements made in their weakest area, the midfield this summer. Get a new holding midfielder and it's completely rebuilt.
The likes of Gkapo have replaced Firminho, Diaz replaced Mane. So good signs of squad rebuild overall already. These players have had time now to find their feet.
Have the best keeper in the league
A player who is nearly always in the race for the golden boot each season.
2nd best manager.
Finished the season strong.
Nunez has had a full year in the league and under Klopp -could be his breakout season
If Klopp can work TAA into a system that hides his weaknesses and exposes his strengths you have a player of the year calibre player there.

When you look at it - it would be a major underachievement for Pool to go another season without challenging. It would actually have to raise major questions if they aren't back challenging. Not saying winning it because all clubs are chasing a cheat but Pool need to be close next season.

I don't see them as a team stuck in the middle of a rebuild at all. I see a team who has done a lot of that work.

Damien360 · 21-07-2023 11:42AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120879304#Comment_120879304

The only unknown in all of that is the back line. It was slow last year, although it had no midfield cover at all. VVD was slow before the world cup and didn't get any better after it. Trent's position is also an unknown. If midfield can cover him when he goes up the pitch, then I'll be happier.

IncognitoMan · 21-07-2023 11:51AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120879363#Comment_120879363

I think a competent midfield will make a world of difference alright.

If Klopp can get them all working in a system that gets Trent into those half spaces between wide players and the midfield then Pool will be flying. Nunez playing off the left could have some dream service.

Fitz* · 21-07-2023 12:35PM

I wonder if this is a teaser to some news later on? ©

https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1682359770685247488

giveitholly · 21-07-2023 12:50PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120879630#Comment_120879630

Wonder who gets vice captain? Would like to see Salah get it

21-07-2023 12:52PM

I'd be shocked if Van Dyk doesn't get the captaincy. Born leader.

martyos121 · 21-07-2023 01:02PM

A good captain should be able to refocus the team and dig his teammates out of a hole when they’re up against it. Virgil does not have that in him, he often goes the opposite way.

He’ll almost certainly get the armband, but Alisson, Robbo and Salah are better leaders IMO.

LuckyLloyd · 21-07-2023 01:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120879304#Comment_120879304

I don't agree with your assessment on he improvement of the squad and their ability to challenge, but you are spot on in terms of where the expectation levels should be. You can't just step out of the CL for multiple years in succession. That isn't acceptable for Real Madrid like. As such, the idea that we'll have a more interesting rerun of last year with "exciting" newer players and all will be okay, Klopp will stay, fans will be enthused is just a nonsense.

The atmosphere will be incredibly difficult unless this team is able to challenge.

Electric Nitwit · 21-07-2023 01:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120879791#Comment_120879791

100%

Love him as a player, but I don't see him being a good captain

Fitz* · 21-07-2023 02:24PM

When Gerrard was moving closer to leaving Liverpool, there was almost a sense of inevitability around Henderson becoming captain of the club, even though there were more senior players like Milner, Lucas around him. You could see him maturing the year or two previous and growing into the leader of those around him.

Personally, I don't see that with VVD. I think he's able to lead a defence alright but he also a brilliant voice behind him, and he did have one in front of him too.

Ignoring last season, I think that Trent was on course to make a step up, maybe in 2024 ish time and taking over the role full time while Henderson became more of a squad player (kind of like how Gerrard took over Hyypia while Hyypia still stayed playing). I think one more season would have been enough for Trent to settle and mature and be ready to take on the mantle then. But then last season will have rocked him, so he has enough to worry about without being given captaincy on top of it.

I prefer to have a long term captain, rather than a new one every 2 years, so he would have been my choice from 2024 on but there's been a spanner in the works so we are where we are now.

Captain_Crash · 21-07-2023 02:34PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120880320#Comment_120880320

Not disagreeing with the point your making, but Milner joined after Gerrard left so couldn’t have been in the running to take over!

Fitz* · 21-07-2023 03:18PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120880359#Comment_120880359

ah yes, correct!

Milner did captain us a good bit that season alright, must be why I had it in my head.

happyoutscan · 21-07-2023 03:46PM

I've never liked the idea of goalies or forwards as captains.

I'd go for Robertson.

dmigsy · 21-07-2023 04:06PM

Anyone think Onana from Everton would be a decent CDM to come in? He's young, has got the height to replace Fabinho and a year in the prem under his belt. Really good recovery pace and tackling. And Everton need the money. I think the aerial capability of an incoming CDM will be really important and not all of the names touted so far really stand out in that respect.

paulie21 · 21-07-2023 04:35PM

Van Dijk has captained the side lots over the last 3/4 years. A shoe in for the job.

~Rebel~ · 21-07-2023 05:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120880869#Comment_120880869

As vice captain he’s fairly nailed on alright. Who knows, maybe the extra responsibility will curtail his sulks when things go wrong.

TitianGerm · 21-07-2023 05:44PM

https://twitter.com/Plettigoal/status/1682442704205107213?s=20

Apparently Bayern are looking at Fabhino as well. Maybe they'll stick in a bid as well and we can ask for Kimmich 🤔

machiavellianme · 21-07-2023 05:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120879304#Comment_120879304

2nd best Manager? Nice try

IncognitoMan · 21-07-2023 06:33PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120881162#Comment_120881162

I don't know, Erik Ten Hag has been pretty impressive 😉😂

The Moist Buddha · 22-07-2023 06:31AM

I enjoy the way some folks here are saying this guy or that guy shouldn't or should be captain as if they were training and playing matches with them 24/7 🤣

happyoutscan · 22-07-2023 07:58AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120881815#Comment_120881815

We all have eyes, we all watch matches and it doesn't take a genius to narrow down who would or would not be captain material. It's a light hearted enough discussion amidst the usual angst of the last year.

MICKEYG · 22-07-2023 08:08AM

Any idea why both the Henderson and Fabinho (in particular) deals are taking so long

Normally once a player leaves camp it means a deal is agreed and then it is 1-2 days for a medical.

Would be mad if both deals fell through and the two lads returned.

AdrianG08 · 22-07-2023 08:19AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120881960#Comment_120881960

Hopefully not.

The only worry is that we needed another midfielder or 2 before it was apparent Hendo or Fab were off.

Usually we get our ducks in row before a player departs (get all signings in place before sales to avoid being fleeced).

1 further midfielder won't be enough, we really need 2 midfielders plus a left sided CB, or 1 midfielder (DM) and 2 defenders (Left sided CB and right sided defender if TAA will be a midfielder full time).

Think TAA needs a DM beside him, with Szoboslai and McAllister in front of them.

MICKEYG · 22-07-2023 11:50AM

The delay is worrying

If Liverpool were happy with the price so they let the lads leave camp, and the lads were happy with the terms, then it should have been very smooth and completed in few days.

BorneTobyWilde · 22-07-2023 12:10PM

Milner - Jones was taking his spot late in season

OX - Elliott replaced him long ago

Keita - Bajcetic in team, played more games than him last season

Carvalho - Szoboszlai massive upgrade

Henderson ?

Fabinho ?

Mac Allister - luxury addition

Trent - A midfield star is born

What we need now is a younger Henderson/Milner, a runner , a forever optimistic type, and a new No6 . Henderson easy to replace, Fabinho not so much, we should go for Bruno Guimaraes, weaken Newcastle in the process.

Talisman · 22-07-2023 12:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120881960#Comment_120881960

It could be the case that Liverpool has been stalling while the deal for a replacement is secured. Henderson is reported to have a medical scheduled for today.

Talisman · 22-07-2023 12:57PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120882683#Comment_120882683

Szoboszlai has replaced both Oxlade-Chamberlain and Keita.

Bajcetic & Alexander-Arnold have Henderson's #8 role covered.

Mac Allister will displace Thiago.

Fabinho's #6 role is the problem position to fill. At present the backup option is Tyler Morton.

We have 2 non-homegrown spots available when Fabinho completes his transfer and one of them is likely to be taken by a new defender.

BorneTobyWilde · 22-07-2023 01:05PM

Thiago? Are we losing him too , wtf

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