Donald Trump discussion Thread IX (threadbanned users listed in OP)

It's a recording of the Mark Meadows biography one. Just hearing it in his own words, sort of hard to deny, not press cuttings.

A lot of the time when it comes to Trumps errors its best not to focus on the nefarious motives, but more often that not its " its the most stupid reason".

I definitely think he wanted them to impress his mates after 18 holes and he probably never got around to it while never truly grasping the legal pearl he was in.

He has a guy called Tom Fitton who he is friends with and has a big following on social media who was likely advising him terribly and because he is a relentless sycophant with good social numbers he heeded his advise over the saner legal people around him who were imploring him to give them back.

DOJ offered trump a settlement on this documents case, Fitton advised him against it. The best people

Its sad that the history of the US presidents early in this century will be littered with Trumps doings, mostly down to his choosing legal advice because it fitted his mindset and not his actual best interests.

Fitton telling Trump that he could use the ruling of the Clinton "sock-drawer" case to hold on to the classified documents, despite the difference in the circumstances and obvious dis-similarity between the items both former presidents claimed privilege on and Trump chose that free advice over the learned advice of his lawyers, even though Fitton's Judicial Watch group had lost the sock-drawer case it brought against Clinton, is almost laughable except for the office it concerns.

It'd be nice if Melania told Trump that Barron has something he needs to tell you - cue Barron in a son/father chat: [Pop, like, just get over the loss, you're embarrassing me, people are starting to say how alike we are].

Trump's legal team have asked Georgia's highest Court to disqualify and recuse the DA investigating the "request" by Trump to the state Secretary to "find" votes to overturn the election result in that state AND to block evidence gathered by the state from being used in any prosecution of Trump in respect of the interference by Trump in the election result. His team also went to Fulton County superior court seeking similar orders against the DA and a named judge [Judge McBurney] of that superior court who oversaw the Grand Jury hearing the case presented by the DA.

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2023-07-14/trump-lawyers-ask-georgia-courts-to-block-evidence-toss-prosecutor-from-2020-election-probe

I'm guessing that he and his legal team might be worried now of an appearance before a jury in a Georgia state court with a successful prosecution, conviction and sentence to a Georgia State prison outside the remit of the federal justice system. Attacking the Georgia State system, including its justice system, from within using the state judges against one of their judicial colleagues and a DA might rebound on him as Trump's team may not have asked either the DA or Judge to recuse themselves as a prior step.

Trump is fine when it comes to fundraising, the small donors love him the suckers.

Their was a decent enough breakdown their tbf. A lot of hot takes about DeSantis running out of money but he is doing ok but obviously a few things to worry about going forward.

However yeah not all rosy when it comes to 2024. The key states one of them is Michigan and the GOP is a mess a state Trump has to win. Whitmer is a popular governor their which will help Biden. The Arizona GOP is also a mess and their is a chance that Lake will be the GOP senate nominee, her and Trump on the top of the ticket will be a disaster with independent voters who decide these things in AZ.

https://eu.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/michigan/2023/07/14/michigan-republican-party-bankruptcy-kristina-karamo-financial-problems-debt-clare-meeting-fight/70414759007/

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/swing-state-republicans-bleed-donors-cash-over-trumps-false-election-claims-2023-07-05/

Its true that the small donors like Trump, it's into who's account the money goes and the actual use its put to is where the difference lies when it comes to the funders. The major funders seem to prefer their funding to go into the party efforts. They want their dollars worth where it come to the input from elected people in Washington and state capitols. Naturally they are not going to say you know who is a conman as he has proven he has a lot of red baseball cap lovers who are willing to do his bidding when he drops one of his vague "action is needed" hints.

Sinema seems to have resolutely nailed her colours to the Trump mast.

Forgive me if I’m wrong, but isn’t one of Sinema’s big problems in re-election is that her volunteers that won her the last election want absolutely nothing to do with her anymore?

She just won’t have the base of willing workers that she’ll need.

I think with Lake/Trump on top of the ticket screeching about stolen elections and Rinos, Sinema could peel off plenty of suburban Republican voters which makes it even more complicated, although in a three way Lake should still fall over the line. Any other Republican in that potential three way would win quite comfortably though, that's the MAGA "magic" in a swing state.

Indeed hes burning through donations to fund his legal fight, his base will be tapped out when it comes time to actually campaign

I'm reading from the UK site "The Daily Digest" a story by Zeleb.es that relays: a healthy portion of Republicans now view Trump unfavourably, that his support has dropped 9 points since last year according to the Pew research Centre. I'm hoping that it's a true report and not a hopeful poll tale not to be relied on. The GOP polls say differently; then one would suppose they would in the info-wars situation he's landed the US in.

And not just for anything.

The c*** tried to fraudulently overturn the result of a free and fair democratic general election.