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Why can't O'Connell Street in Dublin be more like Dame Street and Grafton Street ?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭Big Gerry


    Grafton street also has social housing around the corner from it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,985 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Should take the spire away. It’s there over 20 years and not a person would miss the thing. It’s the most bland pointless piece of street art / decorative street architecture. Can’t interact with it, can’t go in it, up it, bland as hell to look at. The way it’s lit at night is completely dull and ineffectual. Ironic to call a spire pointless but it pretty much is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,877 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Not in anything like the same volume and it has the distinct advantage of having Stephen's green at one end and Trinity at the other.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,420 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    ...pack yourself up with drink and drugs, and you d be surprised what you can do with that thing!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    It does look less claustraphobic to be fair - and less commercial too, no McDonald's or Starbucks...

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭corner of hells




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,145 ✭✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,420 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    ...am i right in saying theres many clinics on the north side of the city, relatively close to o'connell st?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Pearse Street and Amiens Street are the main main clinics ( national drug treatment centre) , couple of satellite clinics with GPs prescribing around the city and nearly every chemist north and south side are dispensing methadone including well known multi chain chemists. There’s no particular over abundance of clinics in the north side .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,311 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Not quite O'Connell St but did anyone see this from last Friday on Talbot St? Like one of the kids trying to kick your man, who I'd say is Brazilian, must be all of 10 years old. How do we create these kinds of humans in this day and age with all the wealth in this country?

    Fair play to the big guy for standing his ground.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,145 ✭✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Thing I notice about DCC is that rubbish in black plastic bin bags are just dumped on the street for collection, for rats and seagulls to have a field day on. Then people complain about seagulls rather than the real issues in DCC.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭Big Gerry


    I don't think there does be too much activity in the new Garda Station on O'Connell Street its basically just a political prop that's not even a proper Garda Station that Varadkar made a big song and dance about.

    You don't even need a Garda station on O'Connell Street whats needed is foot patrols.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭Big Gerry


    They should have built an Irish version of nelson's pillar with an Irish hero on it to replace it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    i don,t think the council can decide what shops go in a particular street, thats up to the cost of rent ,consumer demand ,the level of traffic ,tourists go to temple bar, middle class customers go to shops on the south side or to shopping centres



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭Big Gerry



    I wonder what muppet approved the Sports Direct Store in North Earl Street which brings down the whole tone of the area ?

    It's like the council is going out of their way to allow businesses that pull in scumbags to O'Connell Street and surrounding areas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,324 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Thats bollix.

    Thts a laughable solution actully. I dont know what they are called but they "Concerned for dublin city brigade" managed to get Ann Summers to leave Oconnell street too. Despite it being the classiest thing on the street.

    Put garda up and down the street. That will improve things a bit. Not cycling past, but actually on guard. That would help.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭Big Gerry



    I think its got to the stage that even the Gardai are afraid to walk O'Connell Street unless they have back up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 804 ✭✭✭Kurooi


    Looking at fixing O'Connell Street is misunderstanding the issue in the first place. You can pour €1bn into it and it will be €1bn down the drain, because nobody wants anything to do with that drug hole. That whole north side city center area is a problem. All the streets stemming off O'Connell and within 1km radius of it need offices, work places, apartments to bring regular people, not tourists, and O'Connell street being at the center of it and a vital link for transport will improve.

    What stores set up there is supply and demand, you should be happy to see low value commercial set up shop there because clearly no business that could pay better wanted anything to do with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,754 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    I think it's a contrivance to call it "The main street of our Capital City", which it's often called.

    It just looks like the main St cos it's the widest and its central.

    The centre of gravity of Dublin is College Green, Dame St and Grafton St.

    The City's origins are in the south side on Wood Quay, Dublin Castle, Christchurch, Trinity, Dubh Linn etc.

    A lot of the North Side to the East of O'Connell St is reclaimed land. Lots of the North docklands was extremely deprived recently and is only now recovering.

    Mountjoy Sq and Henrietta St was originally for the upper middle class but became tenemant slums by the turn of the 19th Century, whilst the southside squares remained salubrious.

    The Carlton Site, Metro Station and Clerys will make a difference though. Also all the development on the North Docks will help as they'll travelling by Luas. Likewise Grangegorman Campus.

    The gentrification of places like Cabra, East Wall etc also. O'Devenay gardens also.

    I suggest we try to get to the root of multi generation poverty, crime, addiction, antisocial behaviour.

    Human beings have such potential and most people aren't born bad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭johannmall


    Cos it's the northside ! And our southside literary crew get bridges & monuments ! Where as Brenda'n Behan gets a strip of council gaffs named after him ! Discrimination. I tells ya !



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭tinytobe


    The 2nd one is sure the more elegant one. I also recall pictures of a very stylish and elegant hotel near the GPO prior to 1916.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,345 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    I’m not from Dublin and haven’t been on O’Connell street in years but I’ve seen articles saying that exact thing that Gardaí need backup . It seems like it needs a Rudi Guliani approach . Get guards in there and send effers to jail . Though the courts here won’t do that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,985 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    You can refer to my post as ‘bollix’ and yet you are somehow comparing wanting an ugly monstrosity of a useless spike cleared away and Ann Summers leaving ? Erm…. Ann summers was there for how many years ? more then 10 I’m willing to bet and my recollection was that spiralling rents there was the reason they left. Not because any ‘brigade’ wanted them to leave. They have a couple of other shops in Dublin so it’s not like they ran off into the ether, so why didn’t your fictional “ concerned for Dublin City brigade “ have them leave other prominent locations there too ? 🙂. Henry St would be ‘quite prominent’ … Blanchardstown shopping centre has thousands of visitors daily, prominent too :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭johannmall


    Nevermind trashy shops , I witnessed a young fella run for his life into penny's, chased by a dozen toe rags all dressed in the blanch 3 peice , with despicable young women recording it all ! Sadly our gardai can't lay a finger on them otherwise the likes of GSOC could have their job , it's so wrong & what the tourists must think of us !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    I don't think a shop selling sports gear is down-market since the pandemic almost every street has a few empty buildings .



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