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RTÉ admits paying Tubridy €345,000 more than declared

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭Emblematic


    There's been talk about "reforming" the licence fee for some time.

    I'm not personally happy with the direction it seems to going. The reform I would like to see is more direct accountability to the public, not less. But less accountability is the direction in which things are going unfortunately.

    RTE, in my opinion, are much more scared of people walking away from them and taking their money, than politicians over whom they have a certain hold. So a mandatory fee suits them much better.

    A bit too late for some of the current board but great news for RTE, Tubs and the like in the long term.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭ZookeeperDub


    Won't happen, not now. The current government have too many issues to go forward with such an unpopular move.

    RT can return but hopefully people will mass turn off



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭Ohmeha


    The Tubridy Indo article today smacked of NKM written propaganda like the hilarious headline article from the Sun last Saturday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,662 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Completely immaterial what I or you think. A few heads will roll but there will be no charges brought in any court. The only positive here apart from Shining a light on the obscene salaries and greed is that the public may demand inquiries into other areas where our money is wasted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,259 ✭✭✭✭briany


    @ZookeeperDub

    RT can return but hopefully people will mass turn off

    In the event that he does return, the public wouldn't turn him off. The general public don't really care about the issue to the point that they'd be reaching for the dial as soon as they heard his voice. If anything, his first couple of shows back would get a bump in listenership because people would be tuning in to see if was going to address the furore.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭Emblematic


    Why is it being talked about by Varadkar at the moment if it is so unpopular?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,556 ✭✭✭Frank Grimes


    Anytime I hear him now (and it's always on Clare Byrne's show as 'Ireland's only 'expert' on music who just happens to be represented by NK') he's basically an overpaid pub bore. He'll be brought on to regale us with his knowledge of whatever random artist they pick and all he seems to ever do is list off albums and singles, presumably (in his mind) to impress people with what he knows.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭ZookeeperDub


    Maybe, but he has shown what a grubby little man he is....I think you will find some people will switch off, the more th ebtter. He was already losing audience anyway.

    Would be better if RTE just dumped him but they won't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭ZookeeperDub


    They have been talking about it for over 2 years now. The papers are firing out articles now because it gets clicks.

    It would be suicide politically for FF/FG/Greens to try implement now with an election coming up

    Have SF as the main opposition even come out and said they won't do it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,941 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Nobody really gives a Sh1t. Life will go on. Folks won’t care who is on the tv and radio. People’s lives today are just far tooo busy with so many things that they stop to give a fiddlers if RT is still on RTE.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,376 ✭✭✭Allinall


    The person or company that provides an invoice doesn’t pay VAT on it.

    At least get your terminology right.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,316 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    It doesnt even say that.

    It say 'several ministers' feel that that is the mood.

    They couldnt even pony up a sham poll.

    Then it misrepresents that into 'ministers' as if it represents some collective view.

    Talk about second hand weasel words.

    A deliberately deceptive article. Utterly dishonest.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,011 ✭✭✭creedp


    The tv license was created at a time all visual broadcasting was watched on a B/W TV and delivered by RTE in one/two channel land, it's a bloody dinosaur and no longer relevant today. Think road versus motor tax. Time to move on. The idea that 30%+ of households are serial evaders brings it into disrepute and the Govt have been seriously lapse in not addressing this problem. In fairness though, I'm assuming the people who have not paid it / threaten not to pay it in the future because they consider RTE morally repugnant are fastidious in their compliance with all other tax law.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,920 ✭✭✭HBC08


    I can only speak for myself.

    I am 45 and have paid the TV license once in my life (2016)

    If I was a regular contributor to RTEs coffers I'd seriously be rethinking that now.As it is I have no form of protest other than to not pay the license which I'll continue to do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭ZookeeperDub


    I fully support the tv license coming out at source to be honest. I am not arguing against that. Plus they are spending millions trying to enforce the TV license.

    For the average person its not a problem as they pay anyway, I always pay so I don't really care if it comes out anyway.

    What I am saying is no government at the moment will introduce because it will kill their ratings with an election coming up. As I said SF haven't even come out and said they won't do it but I can bet you a lot of money if the government try to implement they will come out and say they are against it and try win the popularity contest.

    Better for government to push out to next government and then see who will implement. I don't think it will matter who is in government by the way, it will be introduced



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,260 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Doubt if NK can plant a story in the Indo, given the role it had in breaking the story and its editor's public comments.

    Yes, the Finnish model is the way to go and do whatever restructuring of RTE is needed to achieve that. Lay out a very visible plan for that and milestones to be reached. Report on progress every 3 months to the Oireachtas Media Committee.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭ZookeeperDub


    I would say the comments as well could be from weeks ago. Its a churn article to get a few clicks as people are interested in tv license now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    RTÉ's new director general Kevin Bakhurst has said he will contact Ryan Tubridy during next week to arrange several long conversations about his future with RTE. Mr Bakhurst has also said he will not deal with, or talk to, Tubridy's agent Noel Kelly. 

    hopefully it’s a goodbye package they’ll be discussing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,432 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    So Tubridy's earnings were understated by 225,000 as the other 120,000 is resting in some other account.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭ZookeeperDub


    It was NK in the PAC meeting who said 0% was paid on it. I didn't see RTE been asked the same question.

    At least read the comment and the one I was responding to. You can't "allege" something when it has already been confirmed and on the record.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,920 ✭✭✭HBC08


    So NK won't have KBs phone num?.........just like the previous set up so!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭ZookeeperDub


    Sure why would he need Noel Kelly?

    Kelly has never even had a cup of tea with anyone in RTE before. So he would add nothing anyway



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,316 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    He doesnt even know where RTE is or what it does. He never leaves his office. He doesnt know what an invoice is. It is just a voice at the end of a telephone line telling him what orders to execute.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭ZookeeperDub


    He is good at emails, one of the best in IReland at emails



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    A factor would be the date on the invoices. If these are pre Brexit, then for VAT purposes they'd have been treated as Intra EU sales/ purchases and 0% VAT would apply. Post Brexit, VAT would apply.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    I’d hope so but reading between the lines there I don’t think so. That sounds to me like “you can come back but not with an agent”. Also, why “several” and “long”? Whatever is discussed it should be a very short conversation, i.e whether it’s a “goodbye and good luck” conversation or a “take it or leave it” one, it should only be one meeting and it certainly shouldn’t be long.

    The wording of that makes me think KB wants him back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,033 ✭✭✭PeadarCo


    So what you are saying is that you are clueless about VAT rules. Why are you commenting so much on story you don't know anything about? You are obviously not aware that Grant Thorton cleared Tubridy of any wrong doing illegal.

    On the moral end of things I don't understand why anyone took RT seriously when he was on about everyone being in it together about Covid and salary cuts etc. It should not be news to anyone he is on a big salary. It also shouldn't be news that it would be hard for him to earn as much anywhere else in Ireland. RTE have basically admitted as much as they reduced RTs salary over the last decade in both absolute and real terms. RTE overpaying presenters isn't a new complaint.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,432 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Surely it would be absolutely breathtaking for Tubridy to be back air in the next 6 to 12 months with this story expected to run and run.

    If the government want to introduce a flat broadcast charge for everyone, then there is no way someone who received secret payments is going to be able to return to RTE.

    It's not happening. Bakhurst is being diplomatic as he has to thread carefully. The conversation will be about his severance pay.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,635 ✭✭✭kerryjack




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,269 ✭✭✭Brian Scan


    Todd Andrews resigned from the RTE Authority in 1970. Ryan Tubridy was born in 1973.



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