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Tour de France 2023 ***spoilers*** Warning in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,082 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Not looking good for a break with this pace from UAE.

    On a side note to the big 2 we now have the FdJ 2 even though Pinot says he still doesn't care about GC and also the 2 Yates are absolutely glued to each other.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,778 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    Realistically, the team sitting in 2nd will be just as keen to make sure nobody in the top 10 goes off in a big break. I take your point, it just seems that the talk about not wanting the yellow jersey 'too soon' is a relatively new theory that's grown legs without much substance. Fair enough, you don't necessarily want it in week 1, but...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,330 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Ewan abandons



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,082 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Really hating the breakaways this year. Couldn't really give a shte about any of these guys winning or not.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,224 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    On the Columbier now



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭Mefistofelino


    JV shedding riders ATM. Wonder if they are really goosed or just pretending, with the intention of saving them to batter UAE over the weekend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,124 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Ffs the mankini guys were bad enough but that idiot with his shorts down under his arse needs a smack



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,330 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Peloton havent even taken a minute out in 10k or so, UAE will need to get the finger out if they want to win the stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭Mefistofelino


    Kwiato is having an awesome ride



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,403 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    Gap is holding he'll probably do it



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭Mefistofelino


    A long run for a short slide. A waste of resources.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,917 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Awesome ride by Kwiatkowski.

    Pog takes more seconds back. I think it's down to 9 seconds now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,082 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I like that Pog doesn't do stupid start-stop attacks and give up when he sees the man on his wheel.

    Would have been nice if he went sooner but he needed Kuss gone first.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,417 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    ASO not doing the French riders any favours with that stage setup for Bastille Day.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,812 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Looks like the blood money is paying off for UAE this year anyways, Yates is going to be the difference maker here I think, just wasted Kuss to chase him which allowed Pog to go free in the end



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,082 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    French cycling not doing Bastille Day, ASO or France any favours by being pretty sht.

    The closest thing to a golden generation since their last TdF win is on its last legs and there is absolutely nothing coming up behind them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,330 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    You'd wonder if the rest of JV (except Jonas and Kuss) took it easy to make it a hard day tomorrow...



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,224 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    Lenny Martinez and Romain Gregoire look like decent prospects to me but they may flatter to deceive like so many.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭Mefistofelino


    On the basis that the actual gap between Pog and Vingo at the finish would have been the same regardless of whether they finished 1-2 or 20-21, Pog essentially burned his team for a four second time bonus. Kuss moving onto Yates wheel and keeping Pog off it was very smart.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,920 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    I think POG knows he has vgg number now for definate. He knows where and how he can beat him.



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,224 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    Impressive ride from Pidcock in fairness. Maybe his GC ambitions are realistic after all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,330 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    He got 4 bonus seconds as well, so a total of 8



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,417 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Yes maybe ASO have realised that too, and have given up trying to tweak things to their advantage :)

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭Mefistofelino


    What I mean is that all the team work today only yielded those 4 bonus seconds - he would have got the other gap regardless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,082 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Only 4 seconds. Don't let Purito ever hear you say that 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭Mefistofelino


    He'd probably have to ditch the CX and MTB if he wants to make a concerted GC push.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke


    So what did we learn today:

    UAE domestiques aren't very good at burning themselves off at a high pace. It looked like Pogacar was asking for more speed and they couldn't give it to him, yet were able to all stay at the front for ages. Except for Yates of course. Maybe he should have gone to the front a lot earlier.

    Vingegaard could only keep up with Pogacar for 20 seconds. Is Pogacar able to accelerate like that many kilometres from the end and settle into a high tempo? Does he have the confidence in his fitness to try it?

    Maybe, just maybe Pidcock is capable of going for a Grand Tour in the future. He's doing better than I thought. This weekend will reveal all I think. We'll see if he can recover from these efforts.

    The current generation of French cyclists are shite.

    It's been set up for a potentially epic weekend. Really am quite excited to see how it unfolds.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,234 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    UAE rode to win the stage & take bonus seconds. The mistake they made was giving Kiwa too much time & this is proven by his power numbers available on Strava. It was an exceptional performance from the break by him.

    A different rider out front Podj wins the stage & takes 10 seconds.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,065 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    My key takeaway: Pogacar is the greatest cyclist I’ve ever seen. I’m too young for Merckx but saw Hinault on.


    I really hope he wins the Tour. It completely bucks the trend of riders only focusing on the tour and ignoring the spring classics. The mad hoor will probably win Paris Roubaix next year.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,082 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Your too young to have seen Mercxx but old enough to be Pogs grandfather 🤣🤣🤣



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