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RTÉ admits paying Tubridy €345,000 more than declared

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    What I find remarkable is that in relation to Tubridy anyway, this type of behaviour/culture continued to exist right up to the publication of recent events. Apparently it has become knowledge that no other competitors of RTE were headhunting Tubridy, yet he was commanding the highest salary for a presenter within RTE. Does this really come down to what Tubridy could generate in terms of advertising revenue? Why was there no willingness on behalf of RTE to let him walk? They are still pussyfooting around his position with RTE. He is either an employee or a contractor, if he is a contractor but no longer under contract, what legal rights does he have to challenge RTE if they were to dispense with his services?

    Basically, what can he sue RTE for? What are the chances of him being successful?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Karppi




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,651 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Did he go via Ballyvaughan to collect his glasses?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,235 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    The relationship between Forbes and NK needs further investigation. What exactly was said in the one to one call, or calls, we may never know and Forbes has gone to ground playing the mental health card which no-one is buying. The two of them were in cahoots for a long time and for Kelly to say he doesn't know Forbes is one of the most laughable things to come out of the hearings.

    Tubridy via his agent has done irreparable reputational damage to RTE. Even if he was in contract, its grounds to be fired.

    Kelly is of the view that everything Forbes did or said was legitimately on behalf of RTE, other people would query that.

    I don't think Tubridy has grounds to sue, he screwed up his own career, so why should anyone save or bail him out now?

    And he still hasn't paid back the 150k.



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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,867 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    Yeah, but during the committee meeting with RT one of the TD's asked briefly about it, said "RTE paid for your car to Drogheda, €847..." Ryan said Yes but there was an interruption and it wasn't touched on again (that I heard).

    If like RT and NK state, the Renault gig was seperate, why would RTE be paying for lifts to it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,021 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Whoever it was actually for, Tubridy in his hearing said that it was for him.

    Said it very arrogantly as well, "It was for me, of course".

    Either you claimed €900 for a taxi to Drogheda or you are hiding something else, take your pick there Ryan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Karppi


    While I was googling to check my memory about the chauffeur car for Niamh, I came across this article. I'd not read it before,; it's about the barter account(s). I found it a very interesting read. Money sloshing around all over the place.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,662 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    They certainly add something alright! He seems like a guy who's only discovered copy & paste fairly recently. He might have been on a FAS course or something!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭tobesure


    I don't know how Renault are getting away scot free in this.

    Renaults relationship is with RTE, not Ryan Tubridy.

    They facilitated this deception.



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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,867 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    Yeah it kinda works out maths wise for drive up, driver hangs about during gig, drive back.

    But why would RTE be paying for that? Why would RT expect it if there was a seperation of contracts and payments?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    I don't see how

    They were offered a commercial agreement from the commercial side of RTE.

    What fault lays with Renault?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Well you hardly expect him to drive ALL THE WAY 🙄🤣 to Drogheda now do you? Lol.

    People who earn a fraction. of what Tubridy does commute from Drogheda (and further away) to Dublin daily and back home again after doing a full day's work. Yet Tubs needed a chauffeur to drive him to Drogheda for a 2 hour gig.

    And you can bet anything he wasn't driven in a Renault.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    You'd wonder if RTE paid for Tub's accomodation and travel expenses to London when he did his little BBC summer fill in gig all those years ago. I actually wouldn't be in the slightest bit surprised.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 21,343 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    All Renault did was agree to a sponsorship that benefitted them, they are not responsible for DF underwriting the agreement and paying it in an underhand manner through a barter account.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭celt262


    I pretty sure he was specifically asked was the transport for him or someone else and he said it was for him.



  • Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I think what has pissed off the TV licence paying public the most, is him lying about the extent of the pay cuts he took and not correcting his published salary - that he knew full well were incorrect.

    "I've taken a pay cut before, I took over 30pc the last time and they've asked for more, which would bring it up to about 45pc or thereabouts since I took 'The Late Late Show'," he said. And when it comes to this sort of issue that's not something I've been found wanting in, and that continues to be the case."

    He was still at it on Tuesday, trying to insist that payments from the Renault deal were separate from his RTÉ pay. It was obviously something they had both been coached to say. The person whose opinion matters the most, Kevin Bakhurst, said that what they were asserting was not logical and that both payments, “should be seen as part of his pay package”.

    Tubridy's culpability for the mess he is in is far higher than 1%.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,914 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    “It matters not what someone is born, but what they grow to be” - A. Dumbledore

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Read it. Its very interesting. The most interesting part for me is that while BOK was in charge of finance, the barter account was used for all kinds of questionable transactions. After she left the barter account returned mostly to legitimate advertising and was in credit.

    BOK has a lot of questions to answer, particularly in relation to oversight of the barter account.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,439 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    They aren't touching the barter account from what I can see

    They paid RTÉ and RTÉ paid into the barter account which paid kelly ....

    RTÉ only facilitated three things for Renault

    1. Use of their star for 3 events per year
    2. Credit note for the value of ads
    3. Cost neutral events

    That is my understanding


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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  • Posts: 474 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    This appears to be the reason he was so eager to explain more about the €900 fare.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,316 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    They are responsible for demanding no pay cut, which is what necessitated it be run under the counter. They knew well that it couldn't be done above board and included as part of Tubridy's declared pay from RTE - even though it was coming from RTE. They forced that by demanding it was guaranteed by RTE. So yes it is on them.

    And they were happy to send in invoices colluding in that.

    So yes they are culpable in this along with elements in RTE.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,660 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,294 ✭✭✭amacca


    Lottie to Dealz ambassador 🤣

    This thread just keeps giving....


    Can the hags that used to do expose and the like be promoted into RTE in her stead for some sort of vacuous what celebrity is using which colonic irrigation specialist this week type fare!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    They asked for a credit note from RTE, thereby forcing RTE to pay for the arrangement and also forcing RTE to pay for the set decoration and all other costs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,294 ✭✭✭amacca


    It's hard to know or at least be sure with info at hand at the moment...


    Either way it should be followed up in forensic detail and if it's a sin of ignorance/wastefulness or something more deliberate it should have consequences either way.


    If that ultimately does not happen then that tells its own story imo. I think ignorance of something thats under you remit should be less and less of a defence as you progress upwards.....its frequently the other way around in my experience however....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    This has been done to death. The world and his dog knows Tubridy and Kelly are as culpable as Forbes.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,276 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    Yes, that was how I took that up also. Someone asked him about it, and said 'for you?'

    And he replied 'yes, for me' in a tone that suggested he thought nothing of it.

    Nearly a thousand euro, to transport him to and from a Renault gig... I would love to get a look at what else was signed off with such careless abandon in RTE apart from the things we have already heard.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,426 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Probably the going rate for a taxi, waiting time, and return?

    Im sure there was a few drinks involved after so probably the going rate.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    I know this will probably shock a few people on here but believe it or not I actually didn't mind DWTS.......at first. I did an awful lot of dance as a child and still have a fondness for it. I used to watch the BBC's Strictly Come Dancing when it was an actual dance competition - before the celebs came into it and dumbed it down a bit too much.

    On that basis I was willing to give the Irish version a chance. As Irish versions go it wasn't atrocious, and did unearth a genuinely talented and likeable person in Julian Benson. Benson IMO would have made a great chat show host - he's very similar in personality type to Graham Norton and has an incredible ability to make everyone feel at ease without being patronizing. I know he has health issues but his enthusiasm is infectious and he oozes charisma and personality.

    By contrast I couldn't put up with the absolute fakery that is Arthur (I can't spell his surname correctly and won't even try, and not interested in looking at google for it) and haven't watched much of the last two seasons with him in it - in fact I watched none of the most recent season (more anon). Any guesses who Arthur's Agent is?

    Anyway, back to Lottie. That season was cut short and there was no audience for the last few rounds because of Covid. Lottie in the two shows preceding the final survived by the skin of her teeth with the judges having been last in the audience vote both weeks. Come the final and Lottie wins.....hmmm, so we're supposed to believe that having been last the previous 2 weeks with the audience for the final she suddenly was first? Let's just say it raised more than a few eyebrows. The final btw is an audience only vote.

    It's hardly the greatest conspiracy of all time and pales in comparison to the current shenanigans, but it was commented on heavily at the time in the DWTS Thread.

    But...as we're on the topic. Lottie was a trained dancer and how she was ever allowed into the competition in the first place was a complete joke.

    And since then NKM have practically taken over it - again this has been widely commented on on this site in Radio and the DWTS Thread. With Garrihy hosting it and then Carl Mullan - her 2FM breakfast co-host - winning it, the show was farcical. Mullan was a terrible dancer and has little by way of personality to make him a vote getter, but miraculously, despite being 4th favourite out of 4 in the final.

    DWTS also featured heavily on Tubridy’s radio show when the tv show is on air, particularly the Monday show after the previous night’s DWTS.

    Now we'll never likely know if it was rigged or not, but let's just say I'd not be shocked to find out that a few people in a certain building in a certain part of town were busy texting on the night of both finals. If you think about it, it's a relatively small investment for a large reward. The winner gets a huge profile boost. A huge profile boost = more opportunities. More opportunities = more cash.

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