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RTÉ admits paying Tubridy €345,000 more than declared

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,260 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    If I'm not mistaken, the Nuremberg reference turned up here before it was tweeted by DF.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,276 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    I think it will move down from the main headlines for now and also the politicians are going on holidays.

    Other stories will naturally take over.

    I think I heard Ciaran Mullooly speaking on radio news on Tuesday, about Tubridy and Kelly's appearance before PAC that day - not sure on what station.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    RTE is still coming across as beholden to NK/RT. No backbone whatsoever.

    “The invoice received by RTÉ was for Ryan’s television and radio work. As Ryan does not currently do television work for RTÉ, we will consider remuneration in the coming days and discuss with Ryan and his agent, Noel Kelly,” RTÉ said.

    Mr Bakhurst also stated he would look at recouping €150,000 from outstanding Renault appearances from Tubridy if he was agreeable to returning it.

    Mr Bakhurst said the scandal around the payment of Tubridy is “one of the most shameful and damaging episodes” in the national broadcaster’s history.

    RTÉ now set to investigate ‘golden handshakes’ to senior executives who left broadcaster | Independent.ie

    Despite everything that's happened, RTE are still considering a new deal with Tubridy. And Bakhurst will look at recouping the money from Tubridy but only if he is agreeable to returning it. FFS!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,260 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    If Backhurst said anything else, RTE would be in Court.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,755 ✭✭✭lbunnae


    In fairness,we have no evidence of that, I think people are trying to wind you up.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,432 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    It looks like Dave Fanning is going to escape discipline for his Nazi remarks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,468 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Are these contractor's vat registered. It's interesting because Consultants, solicitor's,Engineers have to charge 23% vat for there services.

    If it was imposed on so called talent it would change the contracting lark

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,750 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    I think he fears RTE being sued and it costing RTE even more money in the process. I can't understand him if he also thinks Ryan will bring in a lot of advertising revenue? I think his credibility is shot if he keeps him on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,331 ✭✭✭SteM




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp



    That Amendment to the Constitution was quite rightly voted down. It was an unbelievably shyte piece of legislation. Committees would become like mini courts with politicians instead of judges making findings against citizens. At least Judges are impartial and know the law. We could would have ended up getting decisions made along political lines.

    Absolutely the right decision not to give committees those powers.

    The way the PAC works is not great but it's ok. It's served it's purpose here with RTE. It's shown that there's shady practices and it warrants sending in experts such as forensic accountants and if stuff is uncovered that may be illegal or not quite right, then send in the Gardai or Revenue or the Corporate Enforcement guys. In other words, use the professionals to make findings and not the grandstanding politicians.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    RT currently has no contract with RTE. There's nothing to sue over. There was talk of a new contract but nothing more. He's been strongly implicated in events which have had a catastrophic impact on RTE's reputation to the point its future is definitely in jeopardy. If this is not bringing a company into disrepute, I don't know what is?

    Regards being sued, bring it on. A court case in front of a judge would get to the bottom of all this and who is lying far better than any Oireachtas committee. Its obvious no-one fears lying to the oireachtas committees. But lying in court is a far more serious matter.

    The oireachtas committees are relatively toothless talking shops. You can forget about any sort of accountability there. All the principle characters on the RTE/NK side will know this will die down over the summer and they'll be allowed hold onto everything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,021 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    You sound very bitter, sneering constantly about the place but won't find a new hobby. Its not healthy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    I haven't kept fully up to speed on things but help me out or correct me if I'm wrong anywhere here.

    RTE claim Tubs doesn't have a contract that covers him for the radio show right now. That's why they aren't paying his latest invoice.

    So if he didn't have a contract that covered the radio programme once he left the LLS, why did they let him keep broadcasting his radio show then without a contract? Was it that he was allowed to continue because contract negotiations were ongoing?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    some people saying Done Deal is not the NK website



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭An Claidheamh




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,021 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    As with many things, there was a verbal contract in place with Dee Forbes that nobody else authorised or really knows the full details off. And as Forbes did a runner everybody else has to try and pick up the pieces.

    Don't ask how Noel Kelly was able to negotiate that verbal contract with Dee Forbes considering he never speaks to her, nobody will be able to explain that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,232 ✭✭✭ebbsy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Funnily enough I did, given his history, expect him to be impartial and objective on this one. I was clearly wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,526 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Was Tubridy still also being paid for the LLS even when he gave it up? Did they not give separate contracts for TV and Radio? Wouldn't surprise me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Don't forget she has her hugely successful 🙄🙄🤣 "Dancing With The Staff Official Podcast".........



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,750 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Unfortunately, unless Dee Forbes decides to appear before the committee no knockout blow can be landed on Turbridy and Kelly. Turbridy knows he is safe and will try and pursue legal action if Bakhurst is not careful.

    I think it suits all sides for Forbes to stay away. She will never appear before the committee as it could involve more serious consequences for her too. It seems Bakhurst wants Turbridy back despite all that has gone on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp



    Thanks for the anwer. But some more questions.

    So if there was a verbal contract in place, then he had a contract. Verbal contracts are enforceable aren't they? Am I incorrect in thinking that? And more than Dee Forbes would have known about it because Tubs continued on with his raido show????????

    Or is it that Dee Forbes didn't have the authority to issue a verbal contract so therefore the verbal contract is null and void?

    And if it was null and void, why did the RTE legal people not question why he was doing the radio show with no contract?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    That Lynch didn’t have to apply for his job is both obvious and outrageous in equal measure. Jobs for the boys. He might be the rock Backhurst perishes on



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,442 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I think he was unhappy with her appointment TBF. At least that's what we were told. I am sure there is a better story to be told.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭coolbeans


    Almost all of your posts contain underhand barbs at other posters who don't share your point of view and you're obviously very sore about that. Aren't you able to make a comment without making out that other boards users are a bunch of losers because if you're not, then that reflects very badly on you?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,442 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Poor insomniacs, RTÉ spend 25m and even back then had plenty of room from programming across RTÉ 1 and 2, allowing for repeats on at night and during the day if required.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    Personally I think there are huge swathes of evidence on both sides to do with tax payers money. And I think, in private, various threats of leaks are flying



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Regards verbal agreements being enforceable, its hard to know. It probably depends how good a lawyer you have.

    A week or two ago, there was a story in the news where a large number of writers were promised a grant of 25k. But then were told the following day, it was a mistake. Could they sue?

    Regards Tubridy being promised something, he was, based on a different set of facts. The facts and circumstances have changed, he and his agent were blatantly involved in an under the table scheme, out of public view, which if it ever came to light would do seriously detrimental damage to RTE.

    You can't seriously trash your employee through your actions and words and then expect to be taken back. No employer should expect to take such a person back. But this is RTE, they aren't a normal employer and whatever the talent and agent says, they follow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭Will_I_Amnt


    I think the Tubridy/Kelly position is that the TV & Radio contract that they signed until 2025 is still valid. He has left the TV portion of it, but the radio portion should be still valid as RTE have set many precedents for that(Ray D'Arcy, Claire Byrne? etc), therefore, as far as their side is concerned, he's still in contract - but RTE unsure how much of it is payable for radio only.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,798 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Lynch agreed that it was plausible that tubridy and kelly believed the money was from Renault. I think that exchange between Lynch and Dillon could very well result in a massive payout for Tubsity.



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