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General Star Trek thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,475 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Nicolas Coster has passed away at the age of 89. He guest stared in TNG episode The Offspring.

    Born in England, he made his acting career in the US and is most famous for playing Lionel Lockridge on NBC's Santa Barbara from 1984 through 1988 and again between 1990 and 1993

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Might be of interest? https://chng.it/LC5f8LbfLB (petition to "Make STAR TREK LEGACY with Terry Matalas as Showrunner!")

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,282 ✭✭✭✭Stark




  • Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ah no, pancreatic cancer is a **** horrible **** of a thing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,790 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    No way. May he Rest In Peace and

    Nicolas coster too.

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    Peace and long life.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,790 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Has anyone seen the film of this,

    Iseen it yesterday. Not great but it had a ship in it in some ways very similar to the Discovery ship design from Star Trek and with a saucer that could separate from the rest of the ship just like the Enterprise D but a lot more simple.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,746 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    She's finally shipped (apparently they were dispatched in two batches, the second of which arrived into them this week) - I have also snagged an XL gold 1701 (no bloody A, B,C OR D..) tonight!

    Feck it.. they will only be worth more - some from the first batch of -E's are on eBay for ridiculous money!! - and they are soo shiny!

    Pics of the full gold fleet will follow in the next couple of weeks :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,790 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    One thing that really bugs me about SNW is the Shuttles. Don't get me wrong I love most of SNW but the shuttles are just massive. You get a great view of the whole inside of one in the latest episode "Charades" I would go as far as to say they are bigger than the Runabouts in DS9 and that is not right.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,430 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    It looked like a redress of the 32nd century Disco shuttle interior. Thought it looked daft too.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,282 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    I was thinking the same thing about the officers' quarters actually. They look massive compared to the little shoe boxes Kirk and TOS Spock had to cram into.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,906 ✭✭✭Evade


    The SNW Enterprise only has half the crew of the TOS Enterprise so it's partially justified.

    I haven't watched the episode yet but why does the shuttle have a captain's chair?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,150 ✭✭✭ilovesmybrick


    Oh that's the Disco one from the backdoor episode to getting the Academy show. It has a captains chair so you know Tilly is in charge and isn't just some over excitable child on go to work with your parent day.

    In terms of the size issue, yeah they're massive, but to be fair very few shuttles made any sense when you looked at them closely. Aside from the Runabouts (which are technically ships themselves) or the Delta Flyer they were massive open spaces with no though about where the stuff that made them work was. Which to be fair was consistent with the TOS shuttles.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,430 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    In that episode it was more of a runabout training ship kinda thing. But dimensions look the same.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Hey, if we're talking about the scale of things getting a little crazy, we should always stop and consider that episode of Discovery where they have a battle (sigh) within the turbolift network; wherein the braintrust of that show saw the giant caverns as big as a stardock and went, yup, the ship's a TARDIS, right? I'd give the FX company itself a pass, given the now well-documented pressure and stress they work under.

    Also, without going back to check, I swear in Picard Season 3, the scale of Picard's shuttle was all wrong when it docked with Beverly's own ship.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,430 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    32nd century ships do have TARDIS tech according to ENT

    But there was an earlier episode of Discovery where on the Enterprise they ride what became known as the "turbolift fun house" which was also a giant cavern but with turbolifts on rollercoaster rails rather than floating around great glass elevator style.



  • Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Are they still pushing ahead with that god awful Tilly spin off?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,150 ✭✭✭ilovesmybrick


    Not sure. I think it's still officially on the slate, but since Paramount are cutting stuff at the moment maybe it'll be quietly shelved for another 40 years. Though then again they're still going ahead with the Section 31 one (albeit as a film) so who knows at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,430 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    S31 is an Oscar winner cash in which makes it a bit more likely.

    My guess would have been that Academy will get a season as it will be cheap thanks to reuse of all the Disco stuff and probably will have no big actors.

    But now that the actors look set to follow the writers on strike loads and loads of "possibly/maybe" shows are in danger. All the "momentum" and backroom drive for the spinoff could be well gone by the time it's over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,790 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Was there an Enterprise in Discovery in the 32nd Century? I stopped watching it after season 3 so would not know.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,430 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    No I was talking about the 23rd century season when I said "but earlier"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭corkie


    It is suppose to exist but yet to be shown on screen.

    Star Trek: Discovery season 4 established that there is, indeed, an Enterprise in the distant future, along with the USS Voyager-J. During season 4's investigation into the DMA, Star Trek: Discovery noted that the Enterprise and Voyager worked together. The Enterprise is presumably still the flagship of the United Federation of Planets, and Discovery must not avoid showing it any longer.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,906 ✭✭✭Evade


    The ship was supposed to be small, about 120m or less than a third the length of Voyager, so the relative size of the shuttle was right but there are light panels (red) on the hull that look like the windows we were used to seeing as well as having smaller windows (green) than usual so it throws off the sense of scale. The smaller widows were probably there so they didn't have to render the crew on the interior in establishing and space action shots.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    One more reason for me to not watch ENT.

    Talking of scale, the TNG Enterprise D was several orders of magnitude too large for the crew and their families. I've seen a YouTube or webpage which worked out the whole crew complement could fit on one tiny panel of the saucer section.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,906 ✭✭✭Evade


    The Enterprise bigger on the inside thing wasn't too bad. In the real world you can fit 5,000+ people on a ship smaller than Voyager but there might be some logic to the size of the Enterprise. We never really see how big a lot of the technology like impulse reactors or fusion generators is so a lot of the internal volume could be machine spaces plus that extra habitable space can be used to evacuate colonies in the event of natural disaster/hostile alien/anomaly of the week which would involve taking on thousands or tens of thousands more people. It does explain why everyone, bar Worf and Data can get a room with a view too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,282 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Yeah, also it's designed for people to live out their lives, not just short term missions where people go home to creature comforts afterwards. So makes sense that it has cruise ship+ levels of space rather than traditional naval vessel levels of space.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,430 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Star Trek was always crap with scale. Any maps or cut-through diagrams were done later and were never canon.

    The ships should also have been full of rooms with floor windows going by the diagrams.



  • Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Who ever said that everyone was oriented the aame way?

    Gravity plating means that people's feet could always be pointing to a central deck, so people on opposite "poles" of saucer appear inverted relative to each other



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,790 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Exactly. I was just thinking the same thing as in space there is no up or down top or bottom.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,430 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    The various schematics that have been published over the years that people use to talk about the interior say its orientated the same way.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Of course space has a top and a bottom. How else do you explain that every time two, three, five or 75 ships meet, they're all oriented the same way! 😁

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