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Saw a video espousing similar last night:

enjoy (7 mo old video but some of this equipment is way older than that)

Yes it is, none the less, that's the "Russian Way", and my query as to at what point the helicopters attacked, before they got to Rostov, or afterwards, on the road to Moscow? in other words, was Prigozhin only taken seriously after he left Rostov?. Because they sure as hell covered a lot of ground between Ukraine and Rostov, and met plenty of check points, and especially now with the war ongoing. Bear in mind that contrary to what is emerging now, on that day, there was an awful lot of fence sitters, waiting to see which way the dice would fall. Personally, I'd say that he could have pulled it off had he gone on to the Kremlin. Putin and other Government royalty had already left Moscow. But for some reason, he pulled out, so now we may never know what really happened on that day

Ukraine also wanted them to dissemble them and use their submunitions to be dropped from their drones as they are already rigged to fall straight and detonate on impact.

They just need to 3d print a new holder and away they go!

Interesting that the dud rate is quoted under 6% (Ukraine look to be getting more reliable ones at under 3%). Sean Bell on sky news was using a 20-25% dud figure this morning, despite that link stating the reduce figure (article was posted yesterday)

Very interesting article about the mood on the front line in Ukraine, from soldiers and medics. Some optimistic, some pessimistic. And certainly a reminder that for those doing the fighting war is really a hellish business

I think Paris is about to surrender based on the Russian map of the campaign.

I think that figure includes the 1,000 destroyed Leopard 3 and 4 tanks.

Maybe Ukraine only really have the capacity to reasonably operate 100-150 Bradleys as they're currently set up.

But they have the 150 Bradleys on free refill like a Coke in WowBurger. Russia's going to have to destroy an awful lot more Bradleys before its more than a rounding error to the US.

This is why I'm hopeful about this war. Providing the orange idiot doesn't reappear. They'll be pretty set once the F16s/Abrams show up. Once the tap is in service that's the end of it. Even if the UAF only operate 20-50 F16s Russia would literally have to down hundreds of the things to make any real difference. And that won't be happening.

Bit disappointing not to see the ATACMS in this round though.

Sky news US correspondent says the US cluster bomb deal is clear sign the war isn’t going well for Ukraine but that they could shift the momentum significantly on the ground, wiping out heavily dug in Russian troops.

Considering how long the forces of putin had to prepare for the Ukrainian counteroffensive I think it is very unlikely that there was a rigid plan that the moskovyte defenses would have already been weakened enough for the Ukrainians to have serious momentum in their efforts to liberate their country back to the internationally agreed borders. I'm only looking at a limited amount of this war coverage on social media but to me it seems highly plausible that Ukraine is now quite content to turn the forces of putin into fertiliser where they stand rather than loosing more Ukrainian lives simply to see more moskovyte surrounded and forced to surrender or run away without paying for their crimes.

After a year and a half it seems people and the world still aren’t taking this war seriously.

Still that underline sympathy for Russia and forgetting all the misery it has brought on Ukraine.

As if we should feel any guilt in using cluster bombs against an invading country who are using the same bombs themselves and commit war crimes daily and for the whole world to see on top of kidnapping and raping kids.

The world has truly lost itself.

Never again we were told….

Bit surprised by this below. Can’t see how it does much to affect nato unity?

US decision to send cluster munitions to Ukraine 'runs the risk of fracturing NATO' Joe Biden's decision to send cluster munitions to Ukraine "runs the risk" of fracturing the NATO alliance, a former chief of general staff for the British Army has said. 

When making the announcement, the US president said he decided to send the controversial weapons, which have been banned by 120 countries, because Kyiv is "running out of ammunition". 

Speaking to Sky News, General Lord Dannatt said it must have been a "very difficult decision", and he is not alone in being "very uncomfortable" about it. 

"From personal experience, when I was commander British forces and we went into Kosovo in 1999, the only two soldiers that we lost were as a result of unexploded munitions from NATO's cluster weapons, which at that stage were still allowed to be used," he said. 

"I can understand why the Americans want to provide this additional firepower to Ukraine to help its counteroffensive along.

"But as we're coming up to Vilnius NATO summit, where one of the most important things is that we show the unity of NATO together, I think to announce deployment of these weapons at this moment when so many other NATO countries have banned them, runs the risk of fracturing to an extent that NATO harmony." 

My post was about the pliability and sham of the term “human rights” as used and weaponised against democratically elected governments by various groups and institutions in the west nowadays.

You oppose the American foreign policy, good for you. Carry on.

Explosives are explosives, no matter what fancy names they are given, The problem I have with cluster bombs is that as they use parachutes to float down, but the parachutes also mean that they can be blown way off course from their target area, and second, too many fail to explode on impact, and remain lethal for a long time. In this respect, the Chinese and Russian made cluster bombs are the worst offenders. Having said that , there's some bang off them, and I would not like to be anyone on the receiving end of them.