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I think that figure includes the 1,000 destroyed Leopard 3 and 4 tanks.

Maybe Ukraine only really have the capacity to reasonably operate 100-150 Bradleys as they're currently set up.

But they have the 150 Bradleys on free refill like a Coke in WowBurger. Russia's going to have to destroy an awful lot more Bradleys before its more than a rounding error to the US.

This is why I'm hopeful about this war. Providing the orange idiot doesn't reappear. They'll be pretty set once the F16s/Abrams show up. Once the tap is in service that's the end of it. Even if the UAF only operate 20-50 F16s Russia would literally have to down hundreds of the things to make any real difference. And that won't be happening.

Bit disappointing not to see the ATACMS in this round though.

Sky news US correspondent says the US cluster bomb deal is clear sign the war isn’t going well for Ukraine but that they could shift the momentum significantly on the ground, wiping out heavily dug in Russian troops.

Considering how long the forces of putin had to prepare for the Ukrainian counteroffensive I think it is very unlikely that there was a rigid plan that the moskovyte defenses would have already been weakened enough for the Ukrainians to have serious momentum in their efforts to liberate their country back to the internationally agreed borders. I'm only looking at a limited amount of this war coverage on social media but to me it seems highly plausible that Ukraine is now quite content to turn the forces of putin into fertiliser where they stand rather than loosing more Ukrainian lives simply to see more moskovyte surrounded and forced to surrender or run away without paying for their crimes.

After a year and a half it seems people and the world still aren’t taking this war seriously.

Still that underline sympathy for Russia and forgetting all the misery it has brought on Ukraine.

As if we should feel any guilt in using cluster bombs against an invading country who are using the same bombs themselves and commit war crimes daily and for the whole world to see on top of kidnapping and raping kids.

The world has truly lost itself.

Never again we were told….

Bit surprised by this below. Can’t see how it does much to affect nato unity?

US decision to send cluster munitions to Ukraine 'runs the risk of fracturing NATO' Joe Biden's decision to send cluster munitions to Ukraine "runs the risk" of fracturing the NATO alliance, a former chief of general staff for the British Army has said. 

When making the announcement, the US president said he decided to send the controversial weapons, which have been banned by 120 countries, because Kyiv is "running out of ammunition". 

Speaking to Sky News, General Lord Dannatt said it must have been a "very difficult decision", and he is not alone in being "very uncomfortable" about it. 

"From personal experience, when I was commander British forces and we went into Kosovo in 1999, the only two soldiers that we lost were as a result of unexploded munitions from NATO's cluster weapons, which at that stage were still allowed to be used," he said. 

"I can understand why the Americans want to provide this additional firepower to Ukraine to help its counteroffensive along.

"But as we're coming up to Vilnius NATO summit, where one of the most important things is that we show the unity of NATO together, I think to announce deployment of these weapons at this moment when so many other NATO countries have banned them, runs the risk of fracturing to an extent that NATO harmony." 

My post was about the pliability and sham of the term “human rights” as used and weaponised against democratically elected governments by various groups and institutions in the west nowadays.

You oppose the American foreign policy, good for you. Carry on.

Explosives are explosives, no matter what fancy names they are given, The problem I have with cluster bombs is that as they use parachutes to float down, but the parachutes also mean that they can be blown way off course from their target area, and second, too many fail to explode on impact, and remain lethal for a long time. In this respect, the Chinese and Russian made cluster bombs are the worst offenders. Having said that , there's some bang off them, and I would not like to be anyone on the receiving end of them.

It is Ukraine deploying these munitions. Clearly they are morally entitled to determine if using these weapons is the right call versus being Infested with the current worst human rights abusers in the world.

It has nothing to do with the human rights of Russian soldiers. The issue is the threat that cluster munitions present to the civilian population long after they are deployed. In other words Ukrainians are putting their own population in danger by resorting to these weapons. Places where cluster munitions are used at scale become uninhabitable for years. 

I would trust Ukrainians with any and all decisions regarding their land, the well-being of their people and the future of their children, as a matter of course but especially so at this juncture in time. I am sure no decision in that government is taken lightly. If they don’t want the cluster ammunitions, they will say so.

What's more concerning is the manner in which the offensive is taking place.

People mocked Wagner for the slow pace of their advance at Bakhmut and the tactics they employed. Ukraine have been doing something very similar in the counter attack at the same place for the last 2 months. There are many videos and clips out there, you can go back in time in the Deepstate map to see the daily advances. What we're seeing is well-trained Ukrainian forces going trench to trench where advances in a day if they happen are measured in metres.

You can see some of the formations involved with the current assault on Klishchiikva. The Azov Brigade, Aidar, 5th assault, the forces Ukraine are using aren't insignificant.

It would seem to me that the war is being fought on Russian terms. The attrition that an attacking force will suffer is greater than the territorial gains that are being made.