Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Yeah pretty much this. It's annoying to repeatedly see "negotiation" continuously come up. It's like a lesson that the west just seems incapable of learning.

Negotiating or compromising with dictators actually incites further aggression. We gave Russia a chunk of Georgia, we gave them Crimea and the Donbass are we really going to make the same mistake again? All this talk of gifting Russia Crimea and Donbass as a token is missing the point. Putin's bare minimum negotiation position will be keeping the territories they've annexed since 2022. Crimea is a forgone conclusion on Russia's itinerary.

Putin must be replaced or his forces must be beaten back to their borders in full. Nothing else will achieve lasting peace. We've already learned this lesson. If there's an alternative I'd love to hear the details.

That's a bit of a clanger alright, and this thread is full of them. But in 50 years time, when some doctoral student pulls up this thread in the national archives *waves* it will, warts and all, provide a fasciating insight into how people of all types reacted to the conflict.

This is an incredible example of confirmation bias.

Probably gets into the Top 10 military failures though...

You'd have to wonder with Russian doctrine of expendable fighting labour. Is it on purpose that they design their hardware this way. Is it to ensure the soldiers are killed outright and don't claim liability pensions and don't tell tales of what they were doing. It's a lonely place being a Russian soldier knowing those above you want you to die.

Well one way they seem to be going about is if by destroying Russian munition dumps, and logistic set up's, rail lines etc. Having the weapons is one thing, getting them to where they are needed is something else. And of course, its more than just weapons is it? Its everything that an army needs to keep in tio top condition to fight. I'd say by now that all the scavenging that the Russians could do, has been done. They live now in a barren waste land. 100% dependent on incoming supplies.

As an effective offensive invading force Russia has collapsed. Pre 2022 nobody wanted a war with Russia or to provoke Russia. That facade of being the second strongest army in the world has utterly collapsed. Neighbouring countries are chomping at the bit now to get a go at Russia. The Prigozhin coup served to utterly confirm that everything they have is in Ukraine. Bar nukes.

The fella's made so many wrong predictions that if he told you it was sunny outside you'd be a wise man to get your umbrella out

Just wondering with your experience and know how. If Ukraine made a breakthrough and they tried to exploit say a gap in the Russian defence lines how long would it take for Ukraine in your opinion to be able to get the reserves of the Nato trained battalions there into it? Would it be a matter of hours /days to exploit it? I know it would depend on how far they are but in your opinion would they be able to do it fast or would Russia have enough time to seal the gap?

I posted about this already. Any thoughts on why he is back there?. It almost seems like he is goading Putin. Is Prigozhin extremely arrogant or does he have something on Putin that guarantees he won't be killed?