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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,303 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Sending 10's of thousands of soldiers to their deaths hasn't helped Russia, nor has permanently losing their biggest energy customers, or having 10's of billions of their assets frozen, nor being militarily humiliated on the global stage. This is a regime that has had people very deliberately poisoned with Russian nerve agent.

    I would not be surprised to see an incident at the reactor at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,011 ✭✭✭macraignil


    Another village(Pryiutne) reported by the Institute for the study of war to be liberated by Ukrainian forces in the south of their country:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,890 ✭✭✭✭briany


    None of these things threaten the world at large (or at the least, a geographical area much larger than Ukraine) in the way that blowing the NPP would, evil and reckless as these things you mention are. Putin knows this, I think, and I think he knows that he will force NATO to respond directly if Russian forces try this.

    I don't remember who said it - probably Michael Clarke - that if it ever comes to a nuclear exchange, the US has basically said to Putin that they won't so much target Russia as target Putin himself. Putin, with his extreme paranoia, does not strike me as the kind of man who's ready to die, and he will know that if that NPP gets blown, whatever plans the U.S. have in place to take him out will go into action. At the point he orders the blowing of the NPP, he's becomes such an imminent threat to general world stability, that he will need to be neutralised, consequences be damned. This is why I think he wouldn't give that order.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,352 ✭✭✭ZeroThreat


    China is either neutral/lawful evil on the D&D scale, while Russia is chaotic evil alignment 😆



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,395 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Russian position continues to weaken in the high ground near to Klishchiivka, just a small sliver of it is held by them now. My guess is they will abandon it soon.

    It's been two month of Ukraine attempting to push the Russians back from the flanks here. It's been a huge grind and it's not clear to me what is being achieved here. I assume it's an attempt to keep the Russian paratroopers fixed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭mike_cork


    Some interesting reading in this piece



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,012 ✭✭✭✭Say my name




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭Seanmadradubh


    Mad footage of the explosion in Donetsk last night.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    Ukraine have certainly been superior when it comes to attacking supply hubs and logistics during this invasion. The Russian's won't run out of shells but their ability to get them to the front and use them has been greatly hampered at times.


    Talk that a lack of shells is biting again with Russian commentators citing it as the reason for why will likely have to pull back out of Kilschiivka.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,395 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Storing ammunition in a residential area. Real classy move.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,217 ✭✭✭pcardin


    Prigozhin is gone. Payments stopped coming in. Useful idiots left unpaid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭jmreire


    The reason that there has not been another round of mobilizations announced is because the last round never officially ended, its still going on. And recently has been stepped up with Putin signing into law a new declaration that all males will in future be contacted by E-mail, and if its not responded to, within 10 days a 2nd will be sent, and after that last one, you are considered to have been informed. Failure to register after that will put you on a list, which basically makes you an illegal, with no rights...no access to state entitlement's...Hospital treatment, renewing driver license's, passport, bank transactions etc. and be deemed to have broken the law, and are subject to immediate arrest But most important, you cannot leave the Country. And this declaration applies to all Russians, even those living abroad. He's actually mobilized again, but with out notifying the public. Maybe because he's becoming increasingly worried about a backlash? And Mr Prigozhin's recent little escapade only served to further frighten the living daylights out of him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,159 ✭✭✭wassie


    Was watching that and thinking "meh...not so big".

    Then the boom just got boomier....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭IdHidden


    Article in todays FT confirming that Ukraine’s Patriots have taken down Kinzhals

    “Experts had long suspected the Patriot was capable of shooting down a Kinzhal, but it took the Ukrainian military to demonstrate it. They have since intercepted more than a dozen.”

    It is behind a pay wall but here is the link

    “Military briefing: Ukraine provides ideal ‘testing ground’ for western weaponry”

    https://on.ft.com/3pBmLjI



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,513 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    Ahhh thank you for the update. I didn't realise all of that was happening. Just on way back from Bulgaria definitely notice a lot less people around as I presume it's the Russians not here on holiday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭CelticRambler



    Worth noting which country is acting as the middleman in that particular operation - the Swiss aren't doing this on their own.

    In fact, I'd be inclined to give the Swiss the benefit of some doubt, as they have a point: just if London was happy to buy the gold in the first place, then the Kremlin-enriching part of the transaction is over and done with. There's no sense in keeping already-sold gold out of circulation, as that'll only raise the price of the next consignment put up for sale in London or some other UK dominion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,395 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    photo_2023-07-05_11-01-23.jpg

    My Telegram timeline seems to be stuffed with this type of thing in the last week. S-8 unguided rocket pods being mounted on some sort of vehicle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,837 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy



    And I'd like to think I'd do similar but when thinking about it dispassionately, it's a poor deal. Frame it the other way (or better yet, ask your child's mother if you're still together), in the awful scenario of having to choose between being raped or having their husband blown to pieces (or even "just" captured, tortured and castrated), which option would most (and particularly strong) women take?

    Your notion that feminists are strong women is deeply misguided. It would have been true during my formative years (late 90's / early 2000's) but not for long after sadly. Modern feminism presents women as agentless victims who bear no responsibility for their own actions or choices. The suffragettes would have despised them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,837 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    You haven't read much history. Countries lead by Queens are historically more likely to go to war than countries lead by Kings.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,837 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    I've been devouring this over the last two nights (just the last episode to go tonight). It's utterly brilliant film-making. It really shows you where Russian nihilism has come from over the past century and why there's so few Russians still prepared to stand up to the criminals running their country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    And just for those reading the thread not up to date on their tanks, the T54/55 was first introduced in 1948.

    Assuming these tanks aren't simply being transported for manoeuvres or training - that's kinda pathetic. At best you'd wanna think they'll simply sit on frontlines where the Russians know there's no Ukrainian armour in the area?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,223 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Has anyone seen updated satellite images from Russian armour storage facilities recently?


    I remember a big change in Siberian storage facilities last year and they emptied the one in Crimea a few months ago moving them to the frontline.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭rogber


    Women in rare positions of power in male dominated societies often showed aggression to compensate for perceived images of weakness. Hence even in modern times people like Thatcher etc. In more equal societies that trend has largely disappeared.

    All evidence and studies show that men have a much greater propensity to violence. Hence almost all murders are committed by men, almost all violent criminals are men. Despots, serial killers,mass shooters - almost always men.

    You seem to have a weird anti modern woman streak (not getting any action?), but claiming that gender/sex has no link to violence is an argument you've lost before you even start.

    And Putin shows classic toxic male treats: a sense of entitlement and bitter resentment over status, a desire to exact revenge on a former underling that now wants to go its own way. Delusions of grandeur, lack of empathy...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Maybe that’s what Nigel Farage is tied up in lol



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,837 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Ah yes, those poor warmongers were agentless victims of the patriarchy...

    Like most modern feminists, you go straight to personal attacks when your argument is shown to be weak.

    Putin isn't an evil totalitarian because of toxic masculinity. He's an evil dictator because he's an evil prick who happened to be in the right place at the right time. There's a valid argument that a woman wouldn't have been able to ascend to the same position because the Russia he came to power in was (and still is) a wildly chauvinistic society. That isn't however a valid argument that a female version of Putin in the same position wouldn't have behaved any differently than he did because women don't have the capacity to have a sense of entitlement, bitter resentment, a desire for revenge, delusions of grandeur or a lack of empathy. Hell, 15 minutes scrolling through Instagram would disabuse the most naïve individual that women certainly show those traits too.

    Anyway, we're dragging this thread way off-topic so let's put a pin in it. We're clearly not going to agree on the subject: I believe men and women are equal, you clearly see men as an inferior gender whose inner nature drives them to behave like beasts that women need protecting from.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    That may be, but leaving aside the likely much smaller sample size... there's also the not-unreasonable suggestion many of those female leaders rose to power within an existing, deeply patriarchal structure; arguably leading to over-compensation from said leader, lest they be seen as weak and unsuitable for the role of Queen/PM/whatever. Anointed under god n' all that, but rare enough there wasn't a resting suspicion a woman wasn't up to the job of running a country - usually by those most likely to covet the role. It's often suggested Maggie Thatcher had elocution lessons to make her sound less feminine, by way of modern and potentially apocryphal example.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭Seanmadradubh


    Actually discussed this with my partner last night, we would both (hopfully*) go and fight to protect our daughter and grand daughters, but if one of us had to stay behind we both concluded it would be her, (bookshelves overflowing with my books on war/conflict and military strategy might have had a bearing on that decision).

    You obviously haven't met many feminists, but you have been taken in by a lot of faschist/far right/misogynistic bullsh*t, there are 4 feminists in my household, my partner, our daughter and her daughters, (5 if you believe men can be feminists and include me). Those women taught me what feminism is really about, and that is: equity leading to equality. If you think otherwise you have been sadly missled.

    *I understand nobody really knows what they would do in such a situation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,703 ✭✭✭Virgil°


    I'm no mod but is there any chance we could drop the gender war stuff? There's only one war that actually matters in this thread here. This is so irrelevant and distracting.



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  • Site Banned Posts: 899 ✭✭✭I.am.Putins.raging.bile.duct




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