The 2023 All Ireland Senior Football Championship (Sam Maguire Cup)

I dunno, we're only talking about the AI championship. County players would still be playing club games and league games for county, plenty of games surely?

I suppose you're right though in the sense that it's the players who matter and what they want. The general public etc come well down the list.

No

Mayo hammered two yrs in a row at quarter final stage……..Galway showed them far too much respect in salthill..

Gawd waffle indeed 🙄

It wouldn't take extreme bad luck to find a number of the top 16 drawn against each other. Just like Shamrock Rovers are playing Dundalk, and Bohs are playing Shels in the last 32 of the FAI cup. A Dublin v Kerry or a Mayo v Galway is just as likely as any other combination.

Ticketmaster acting the bollix again.

Ordered 2 tickets for Hill 16, paid for them, downloaded them and it says Nally Stand on them.

No idea why the GAA deal with them.

It was doing that to lots of people for the Munster final including myself.

Tickets were going so fast that you could still select City Terrace but the tickets you were offered were Clare Terrace because City was sold out.

Essentially you clicked Hill standing which were sold out but we're offered Nally but they don't make it very clear.

Although I don't agree with the tiny violin stuff about big bully Dublin fans I agree with the Meath poster and ticketing for the Tailteann Cup final. I kinda liked the casual atmosphere of the games and would not have been too excited about the stress of getting tickets and the hassle of 80000 people if Limerick had qualified.

If its the Dublin game you will find nothing if you go on it. It looks sold out.

The Nally is always the last section of terrace to open so it's not some conspiracy to sell the crap ones first.

You don't even need to worry will Derry play puke football. They will definitely play puke football. If it was 2 defensive seems going at it, I'd say give it a miss. But when you have an attacking team like Kerry going up against the Derry bus, it could actually be very intriguing - e.g. how are Kerry going to break them down.

In order to win, Derry will have 15 players behind the ball for over 70% of the game and will be hoping for all of the following to happen:-

• the Kerry outfield players cannot find the inside forward with a pass.
• That Sean O'Shea has an offday at frees.
• that Kerry miss most of their long range point efforts
• That Conor Glass and Brendan Rodgers can perform miracles in midfield to try to give them some rest at the back
• That Kerry go in a little too complacent, and don't show the same ruthlessness that they dealt to Tyrone.
• And finally, that Derry can sneak upfield to tack on enough scores to win the match.

A Derry win is unlikely, but you just never know.

Long championships and round robin definitely benefits the stronger counties. The chances of a shock are much less.

I'm not confortable with the fact that Mayo for example lost twice in the championship, yet can still knock out a provincial champion and reach a quarter final.

You could in theory have a county lose in their province, lose twice in the round robin stage, and yet win a prelimary quarter final.

As for training all year and then being out after one game under the old system, weaker teams are going to be knocked out sooner or later. Its almost better to have one thrashing and be done, than 3 or 4 thrashings.

I agree with the division into Tailtean Cup and Sam Maguire, but both competitions should be knockout and only provincial winners seeded for Sam Maguire or highest league finishers for Tailtean.

Nah mate, Galway had plenty of chances…should never have been in the position they ended up in.

Should have beaten Armagh and then when they met Mayo in their own patch they couldn’t do it..

On those performances they had no place in the AI semis…..and I’m a GWY supporter.

i know a lad involved with leitrim and he says the players are a lot happier with the championship now(they know they wont beat the big teams in connacht but try and give a decent account of themselves) and get a chance in the tailteann cup as there getting a bit of game time against teams they feel they have a chance with and enjoy the games compaired to a hammering by Mayo or Galway and yr over...

Exactly teams play at their level and are competitive.

The only reason we don't have the main championship with teams of a similar level in league like system - is because the 'traditionalists' who are wedded to the antiquated Provincial System are holding the rest of the GAA back. Which is an awful pity. But gradually the GAA is moving towards that with the AI series/Tailteann Cup. GAA people have to be given time to get used to things it seems.

I wouldn't go that far! But Monaghan have the potential to make things awkward if they keep things tight. However, Monaghan's major drawback is that they have a limited pool of players and don't have many fellas to come off the bench to make an impact. Conor 'Mansy' McManus is their only bench danger man.

In the 2022 League Dublin were relegated by Monaghan up in Clones - 3-13 (22) – (21) 1-18

The two teams from that day were -

Monaghan: Rory Beggan; Drew Wylie, Conor Boyle (0-01), Ryan Wylie (Capt.); Conor McCarthy (0-01), Ryan McAnespie, Dessie Ward; Darren Hughes (0-01), Niall Kearns; Fintan Kelly, Kieran Hughes (0-02), Shane Carey (0-01f); Seán Jones (1-00); Gary Mohan (0-01f), Jack McCarron (2-06, 1-0 pen, 0-03f)

Dublin: Michael Shiel; Michael Fitzsimons, David Byrne; Jonny Cooper; Eoin Murchan, James McCarthy, Robbie McDaid; Brian Fenton, Tom Lahiff; Brian Howard (0-01), Seán Bugler (0-02, 1m), Niall Scully; Cormac Costello (0-04, 1m), Ciarán Kilkenny, Dean Rock (1-09, 1-0 pen, 0-8f).

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In 2019 NFL Monaghan became the first county (at that time) to get consecutive victories against Dublin since Mayo in 2012 after a league victory

https://www.dublinlive.ie/sport/dublin-monaghan-allianz-football-league-15739535

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In 2018 NFL Monaghan pip Dublin by a point in CP

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In 2017 Dublin beat Monaghan in AI QF - by 10 points- Rock scoring 1-7

In 2016 Dublin scraped by Monaghan at CP in the league

In 2014 in the AI QF Dublin hammer Monaghan by 17 points

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I don't expect Monaghan will be hammered in 2023, as they will have better team structure and discipline than Mayo. Historically Monaghan have not 'rolled over' against Dublin much.More often than not made it difficult or won.

Did you see the last says group games and changes in permutations? I can't remember a championship day as dramatic tbh.

The covid 2020 was just an O'Byrne Cup/McGrath Cup etc No crowds etc. It was obvious the normal teams were not tuned in. My main memory of the Covid AI was a steaming Tomas O'Se after Kerry lost to Cork. So annoyed he could not talk.

He knew full well Kerry threw it away. And as I said only for Covid that fella Keane that scored the goal would have been back in Australia with the AFL, and had to stay in Ireland.

Then the SF's of the AI were complete write offs as the best teams did not get there.

It is no coincidence in 2023 that we have four div 1 teams in the SF's, in 2020 we had just two. I don't even know what division Cavan or Tipp were in at the time.