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RTÉ admits paying Tubridy €345,000 more than declared

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    For those claiming the Oireacthas do not have the power to complete a witness to attend, Arthur Beasley explains in yesterday’s Irish Times that they do. I did mention this yesterday btw, but appreciate that given the moving nature of the thread many may have missed it.

    If podcasts are more your thing, he was also (for the second time this week) on Eamon Dunphy’s podcast and discusses same:




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Why indeed is the likes of this Astus barter system used by media organisations. The money system was developed to facilitate the complications of barter. And we know that the banking and money system is more traceable, maybe that’s one reason.

    Notable that media reports of this system by RTÉ and Independent just explain the basic idea without questioning the need or concept afaik. They’re hardly impartial in this matter it seems.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,387 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    I was thinking more along the lines of the healthcare and housing crisis to be honest. Things that directly effect everyone.

    But I am not saying this isn't important, the opposite in fact, but the response needs to be proportional and fast which it won't be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    I’ll be offline for long periods today, but to those of you still supporting Tubridy and even more bizarrely Noel Kelly, I give you the words of Mark Twain:

    ”it is easier to fool people than it is to convince them they have been fooled.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,228 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Can posters not just post without this incessant “oh, you’re supporting Tubridy I see.”

    Give over and simply allow some back and forth debate.

    not everyone will ageee 100 percent here, and these type debates are never binary/black and white. Lot to consider and discuss.

    another good article that I think hits the nail on the head. RTE showing a real lack of balls and firmness, and most importantly, control!!

    Fintan O’Toole: RTÉ abandoned the public interest during Covid and capitulated to Tubridy’s tone-deaf demands


    https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/2023/07/01/fintan-otoole-rte-abandoned-the-public-interest-during-covid-and-capitulated-to-tubridys-tone-deaf-demands/



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,228 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    On Noel Kelly: he is absolutely not the problem. RTE allowing him dictate and see through these deals is the problem. He is clearly serving his clients well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,232 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Poor Geraldine will miss all the junkets, meals in posh restaurants, u2 gigs, coaches to drive her half a kilometre

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,951 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Brilliant. Will RT have his cue cards? I think he will get thoroughly exposed. We might get closer to the truth next week.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,232 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Plus

    Barter accounts are supposedly standard in the radio industry. Willie O'Reilly claimed they are used in Today FM, Newstalk, Highland Radio, iRadio and FM104

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,804 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    This Indo leading story today is a bit of fake news.

    From what I can see, all the faces shown are NOT rte stars per se, they are independent contractors who all have Noel Kelly as agent.

    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/deals-on-wheels-the-rte-stars-driving-cars-worth-up-to-70000-thanks-to-lucrative-brand-tie-ups/a1984705757.html



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,232 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    This was the senior executive managers not the Board

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,405 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    When it's used to hide a pay rise from the public,staff and apparently the Board it becomes a problem I suppose.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,228 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    PAC member Brendan Griffin and his quip about his son asking what RTE stands for. Whether it actually happened or not, I think it shows a real lack of respect to be airing it.

    Tubridy is under enough public scrutiny as it is, without a TD/PAC member having a pop in such a childish public manner.

    I’d expect more from public representatives, particularly those responsible for examining standards.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,998 ✭✭✭Archduke Franz Ferdinand


    You keep telling yourself that. I’m sure Tubs” is telling himself that as well, but it doesn’t make it true



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,387 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    It's very easy to get out of this however as we have seen countless times throughout the years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,951 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Playback on Radio 1 now. Comprehensive.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,228 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Echoing the bankers’ pay nonsense. It’s a crock a Sh1t



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,951 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I think the future of RTE lies with the likes of Emma O'Kelly and not "the talent".

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,116 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Hardly surprising. Pretty much all our public representatives were expected to enthusiastically take part in an aggressive pile on during covid, and that went on for a couple of years. I expect that’s how they will handle every crises going forward. Some did well enough this week but too many made a show of themselves in their desperation to demonstrate to the public how much they hate RTE now. They are putting on a show for the public.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,951 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,228 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I'm reporting you. This must be the 5th time you are on quoting me to have a pop.

    If you want to engage me, do so, but quit the baiting.

    What I was on about was the radio catch up this morning and the analogy of RTE and their excuse that they need to pay the top money to retain the talent, reminds me of the same excuse we hear for bankers' pay.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭Sorolla


    This scandal is very convenient for the coalition.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Karppi


    Are those presenters who have a car because they are a Brand Ambassador liable for BIK - or whatever it’s called in their tax liability?



  • Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Going by his reasons for leaving he’s an even bigger spoofer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭ZookeeperDub


    This is true and because he raised a problem everyone hid for 10 years maybe he is not the favourite at the moment



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭ZookeeperDub


    In reality if you look at social media it is full of TD's from Sinn Fein grilling RTE reps and getting them huge congrats when they had a minor slump

    Even this morning I was been shared link from Catherine Connolly? i think is her name who was grilling Dee Forbes 5 years ago, yes 5 years ago and the RTE board was telling about reform on procurement and that nothing would go outside a tender process and it had previously and they are fixing now....huge win for her as she seemed to call out RTE bulls**t 5 years ago

    Maybe you could explain why it is "convenient for the coalition"?

    Actually sorry hold that. That's probably a discussion for the government thread and not for this one.



  • Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Plenty of inter county footballers and hurlers are brand ambassadors for car brands and motor dealerships. BIK is only from an employer though (to my knowledge). Possibly it could be seen as a gift, which would be taxable if valued at more than €3,000 in a year.

    Tubridy's vespa from Bono could also be a taxable gift... unless it's from the 4 lads at U2 and valued less than €12,000.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭ZookeeperDub


    It could be a garage car or something along the lines of that so bit of a loop hole I think

    Then again sports stars etc get cars the same route. I don't see the issue if a brand wants to promote their car and use a star from tv or sport. That is not the issue here

    Why someone would get 25k car allowance when you are a CFO??????? seems odd....in our company the only people entitled to car allowance or company car is the people who have to use a car to get their job done. The CFO doesn't so doesn't get it. Just seems like a nice little earner into the back pocket on top of wages



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭Sorolla




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭Sorolla


    I sympathize with your simplistic view of the world but you need names with “star appeal” to keep the organization relevant.

    Everyone likes to be entertained by a charismatic “show man”


    your suggestion is bonkers



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