Second-hand EV market of 2023

I think your data is flawed/incomplete. How have you account for used imports, particularly those who will not arrive now that did arrive in prior years?

An interesting thought experiment nonetheless

The other missing point is when dealers place one ad but have say 5 cars to sell or 5 ads on multiple platforms for one car.

I do think it is interesting nonethelss and I agree with the outcome, I think the time of mad priced EVs is over. I just bought a leaf24 with test and tax and 80k km for 2600. That wouldnt have happened a few months ago.

e-Golfs also dropping in recent weeks and they have started to appear in greater numbers on the used market as people trade up.

Anyone else wondering if Liam deleted the posts, or sent assassins after the bickering posters? 😂

1st Edition cars are well spec’d and not a base model. Agreed that a lot of ID.3’s likely to become available if not bought out on PCP deals.

Any stats on the resale Values of used Renault Zoes? Have they gone down in recent years?

Thanks.

@zg3409 nailed it, the Achilles heel is charging, even if you found a rare 43ac Zoe most of the chargers have had the ac43 charging cable reduced to do 22kw max, or removed it altogether and left a 22kw port to connect onto with your own cable.

Zoes were great back in 2013-2017 when the leaf was the main competition, when chademo chargers were few on the ground, broken or hogged and the slow charging speed, the Zoe could keep you out of trouble on a 22kw scp. Really only a city car now, good range on the ze40 (200-240) but it’s an out and back machine on one charge, couldn’t be depending on it for a family. Any early adopters would remember the lad from cork who’s special topic was Zoe’s and he went everywhere in it.

Ze40’s are going from €16,000 up to €21k!, the early ones €7900 for a 2015, if you could get a Tekna (6.6) leaf for a grand or two more I’d take the leaf, nicer place to be and the Tekna led low beams are good. That’s presuming your using it as a run around and not public charging with chademo now disappearing.

The Zoe’s are light and I wouldn’t want to get a bang in one, also underpowered. Struggles to pull from 120kmph and tops out fully at 140kmph. The lights are terrible, the windows fog up badly due to poor heating controls/ vents. The new ze50’s don’t all have cc’s and there were issues with removing air bags. Think it got demoted by ncap.

Great little run around but I’d be using the now defunct charging network as a bargaining tool. Renaults seem to depreciate hard so a new one would lead to big losses. It has its shortcomings but they are a nice little car. Good battery bms, cooling and not showing degradation like the leaf. More stylish than the leaf and a perfect second car if got for the right money.

@handpref & @zg3409 - I don't agree that the early Zoe is a city car. It's main strength in Ireland is that it has 22kW AC charging and there are literally over a thousand 22kW charge points in Ireland, they are everywhere and most of the time they are not occupied. You have not much competition! Obviously you need to take your time when you do the odd long distance trip in it. But I'd rather do it in a Zoe than in a similar range early Leaf where you'd need to rely on CHAdeMO or otherwise you are screwed

The only thing about the Zoes is that they are hugely overpriced for what they are: a very basic and spartan econobox EV that is very slow too. Early ones with battery owned shouldn't be more than €4-5k at this stage.

just started thinking of getting rid of my 201 39kW Tekna Leaf (107k km, full battery, 250km) for a used CCS EV (ciao Chademo!)...

any opinions of a fair dealer trade-in value of the Leaf?, it's in very good condition imho.

and was thinking of something along lines of the Peugeot e-208 or similar.. all thoughts appreciated!