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The 2023 All Ireland Senior Football Championship (Sam Maguire Cup)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,697 ✭✭✭elefant


    Is Tyrone's form looking good? In 2 of their last 4 they lost to Galway and looked poor, and drew with Westmeath where they easily could have been eliminated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,982 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,423 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Probably won't feel like a sellout, the big gap between the teams (to allow for ET) means that it'll never be truly full



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭FullBack Jam


    Ya. Fair enough. Maybe so. I guess I was getting sucked in by the guys on the Sunday Game. I still think they will give Kerry a tough game. It is known at this stage that if the Cliffords are kept quiet, that it vastly reduces Kerrys chances of winning. I know it's easier said than done. But if any team can go to the extremes needed to put them off their game, it is Tyrone. And I don't mean by legal means. I mean the dark arts and nastiness that Tomas O'Shea alluded to. That was before it was known that Kerry would be facing Tyrone.

    My focus is on Mayos outing on Sunday. But I am going to the matches tomorrow too to make a bumper GAA weekend of it. I am really looking forward to the Kerry Tyrone game. It might not be a great open game of football. But it should be intriguing. The Armagh Monaghan game should be good as well. We'll have the goalies tackling each other out around the middle of the pitch. Looking forward to seeing how Rian O'Neill performs. Some footballer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,423 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    I think the positive feeling about Tyrone is driven by the performances of the Canavan's - if they can get the rest of the team moving, they could do some damage



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,359 ✭✭✭I see sheep


    Every team does 'whatever they need to do to win', or should do anyway.

    I don't know where you're going with the line about sledging/the Cliffords.

    Kerry are well able to look after themselves, and usually get a dig out from the ref when needed.

    "a terrible war imposed by the provisional IRA"

    Our West Brit Taoiseach



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭munster87


    Tyrone wouldn’t be known for sledging at all sure



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,174 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    I dunno about that. Tyrone will be well capable of beating them playing football too. They got to play plenty football in 2021, but just didn't defend well enough.

    That forward line with shooters of the Canavans, McCurry, Donnelly with the work horses of Meyler and McGeary (bit harsh on Meyler who is a fine footballer) is a match for any forward line in the country. None of them are David Clifford, but the rest of them match up with or better anything Kerry have.

    Midfield is probably advantage Tyrone. Two very good goal keepers etc.

    Kerry if they can rediscover the meanness of last year probably have a better defence.


    I think this is a massive game for Kerry. Even though they beat Tyrone 3 times in last decade in championship, there is still a sense that a good Tyrone team (which the team of the last decade largely was not) has the Indian sign over a good Kerry team and that defeat in the 21 semi-final really stung Kerry. This will be a chance to set that right. Lose and you are looking at another good Tyrone team having a hoodoo over a very good Kerry team.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,359 ✭✭✭I see sheep


    Yeah I know, Kerry and Mayo are angels sure.

    Those northern savages are the only nasty lads in football.

    "a terrible war imposed by the provisional IRA"

    Our West Brit Taoiseach



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Dublin by 4

    Kerry by 5

    Armagh by 1

    Cork by 1



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭munster87




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,367 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    What are you basing the Armagh beating Monaghan on?

    I think the opposite Monaghan have proven it in the big games a team greater than the sum of their parts. Armagh just flatter to deceive.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,903 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    Not convinced by the Tyrone hype at all tbh.

    I'd be an admirer of Tyrone in general, but this team has down nothing yet. They are a shadow of the All Ireland team, they team was good but Conor McKenna made them brilliant, along with McShane who was really hot for that short period but is a pale shadow of that level since.

    I think a lot of people are basing them beating Kerry on their win over Donegal. Look, Donegal were a mess this year. They did recover a bit from their disastrous League campaign, but they are still waaaay off where say Kerry or any of the top teams will be this weekend. To suggest Tyrone will beat based off that performance is a real stretch.

    The other games are hard to call.....i think Monaghan, Mayo and Cork, and indeed Tyrone (who did have an easier tie against Donegal than the others) will suffer from the schedule and the 7 day turnaround. I'm going for Dublin, Kerry, Armagh (although they'll have a days work done if they beat Monaghan) and Derry, who if they go well at the weekend will be hard beaten. Dublin are vulnerable though, they have only really faced Roscommon since the league and they should have been beaten that day, they are coming in very cold to this game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,309 ✭✭✭corcaigh07


    Kerry by 3

    Armagh by 2

    Derry by 3

    Dublin by 6 after extra time



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    GAA HQ are now estimating 80,000 will attend Sunday's quarter-finals and 65,000 tomorrow. Would be increase of 24,000 on what attended the 4 Quarter finals last year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,174 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    I dont think there is that much hype about Tyrone. They are big underdogs in the bookies. Other than the Westmeath performance they have been decent in the AI series.

    Good show against Galway in spite of being down to 14 and 13 for a time.

    Took Armagh apart, destroyed Donegal. Its not earth shattering, but they look in decent form and they usually bring it for Kerry and they have no shortage of talent. They are probably in a better place than when they beat Kerry in 2021.

    5/2 and handicap of 3 looks big to me. Plenty questions mark around Kerry this year too. Cant wait for this game tomorrow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,596 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    We have never beat Tyrone in the year after we won and AI. I expect neither will we tomorrow. 5/2 is great odds

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    So 14 man Tyrone being beaten by 3 points by Galway is a "good show", but their beating a 14 man Armagh by 2 points is a "tearing apart".

    It seems to me that there is not a whole lot between all three.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭mobby


    Say near enough Full House Sunday. No tickets are available on Ticketmaster now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,174 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    I didnt say tore. I said took them apart which they did for large parts of the game. All 3 teams are AI contenders to playing well against them is decent form as I have said.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,584 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    Details for semifinals draw announced. Takes place after Dublin v Mayo on RTE. No repeat pairings from any point in Championship where possible.


    https://www.thejournal.ie/when-is-the-draw-for-the-all-ireland-football-semi-finals-and-how-will-it-work-2-6106892-Jul2023/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,256 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    As the commentators call it , “exchanging pleasantries” !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,256 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    There always seem to be question marks around Kerry coming into the quarter final stage. Partly just cos we can’t read much into the Munster championship.

    I heard that Kerry have only lost something like 2 out of 20 quarterfinals since they were introduced (2010 and 2012 if you’re wondering). So they do know how to get it right for the big game in Croke Park.

    On that basis I’d give them the nod for today

    the other factor is that with Clifford he tends to play better the bigger the game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,174 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    If Tyrone and Derry win, I dont think there is any draw?

    Is that correct?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,584 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    Correct.


    They’ve both played Armagh and Monaghan already so would be paired together with winners of Armagh v Monaghan up against Dublin/Mayo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,028 ✭✭✭doc_17


    Tyrone beat the worst Donegal team of the last 20 years and drew with Westmeath. Kerry will win this with a bit to spare.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭munster87


    And Armagh beat Westmeath by a point, at home.

    Westmeath not as bad as people make out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,769 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    It's Armagh that aren't as good as people think I would say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,972 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    I see that Croke Park is being used Saturday and Sunday this w/end for the football and Saturday and Sunday next w/end for the hurling semi-finals. Then on Saturday the 15th the Tailteann Cup final is on but there's nothing down for Sunday the 16th. Anyone know that's happening in Cork Park that day? I had a look at their website and couldn't find anything.

    Ok I just noticed that according to wikipedia the final of the Junior Football championship is on there that day. I wonder how many people from Kilkenny and New York will be there to fill the place?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,581 ✭✭✭Comic Book Guy


    The 2 games will each be paired up with an All Ireland Football semi final.



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