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Beef price tracker 2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Just over 1kg liveweight per day 870 days in 29 months



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭Sligoronan


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    They were all a Mix of Lm and Ch. The cow is a Shorthorn Angus cross great fertility easy to feed. Never shows much sign of milk but its coming from some where. I sold here first calf to a local man and she had bred great weanlings. I gave her Zag this year for a replacement but she is carrying a bull calf.😥. The cow herself is a low index but don't have the heart to get rid of her.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,271 ✭✭✭Good loser




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Jonnyc135


    Lovely stock, a good angus shorthorn like that is hard bet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,127 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    Lining up some cattle with a factory. its a given things are backed up. Word from them is that shed cattle made up 80-85% of its kill last week at nearly the end of June. Whether these are are farmers cattle or feedlot stock that will be interesting figures for the month of june.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    If you had 20 HEX/AAX bullocks that will be 30 months in September......would you kill them next week when the price is near €5 or give them another 2 months to pile on weight but take a hit on price per kg?

    They are very well fleshed...all fat scores of 3's and maybe some 4's.


    All opinions welcome.

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,274 ✭✭✭amacca


    I'd like some opinions on that too, only with chx/lmx heifers!

    I'd hate letting ones like yours go before they were fully fit but I suppose it's a case of how many more kilos do you think they will put on and what might those kilos be worth in September...+ more grass for your other stock if you let them off now.


    I'm holding on to mine for a good while yet but it's a small bunch and probably pigheadedness on my part..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,127 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    I'd they have the fat scores, that's your decision made. Trade has to tighten at some stage, but if they are fit they're fit.

    Piling on weight and driving into 4+to 5s is going to pinch QA bonus. At that time of the year the 7 month men are starting to offload. If it was me I would be pulling a few out every 2 weeks and tip away that way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,367 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    There is advantages of driving HEX and AA up into 4-/=. You will start to get R grade cattle in them. This can take HE from O=/+ into R-. You are rewarded by both weight and the R grade price with is 12c/kg higher than the O+ price.

    However I agree with you I be tricking them away in 2&3's as they become very fit. While a lot of lads do not feed HE and AA it might pay to start drafting and feeding in small bunches 5-6 @2kgs of maize or/and barley coins really change the confirmation of these cattle.

    Killed 8 friesians last week. There was 1XO+, 1XO=, 6XO- and one P+. I probably should not have drafted the P+, two to three weeks feeding would have probably got him into O-. However I think you have to keep them moving. It about the getting as many as possible into O grade. I taught I might have 1-2 more O=. They averaged 330 kgs and 1600 euro.

    The difference between a P+ and an O- is 60 euro + the extra weight. The extra on the grading pays for the ration. The extra weight is profit and the fact they are gone off the farm.

    Hope to draft 6-8 more in 3-4 weeks time.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭smallbeef


    Is there much/any difference in carcass weights of cattle sent to factory the night before vs the morning of? Full load going later this week and agent wants to take them on the night before. Usually let him at it as its only 5/6 cattle but with 16 x 700kg together now I'm looking for a rough estimate of any reduction in carcass weight so I can negotiate with him. Any input appreciated, thanks.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,120 ✭✭✭kk.man


    I'd say you are at nothing negotiating. There's no wiggle room now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,367 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    1-2% loss evening before to following morning depends on length of journey as well. Very little chance of negotiation I expect.

    My cattle were loaded at 8am and factory was not that busy so went virtually straight up the line. I had the results by 1pm.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,734 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    Well, have had cattle sent away on nights before, and have seen them killed the next morning, even before they went up the kill line, they were lying back in the pens, chewing there cuds, full as ticks.

    Bass may be right but to the naked eye, the cattle can still be full.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭smallbeef


    Yeah I don't expect a higher base or anything but can try to get him to take them in the morning rather than the evening, which I think is a fair request. Worth €300+ to me at those rates. Thanks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,605 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    Would never send cattle the evening before. Younger cattle are affected more. It’s just a handier option for the haulier but it’s you that loses.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,515 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Most of the loss happens on the lorry, I doubt if there's anything like a 1% reduction in DW percentage by going the night before.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,319 ✭✭✭Sheep breeder


    Some factories want the cattle in the night before to have them through the computer and ready to the line to start killing straightaway and to the chills to ship as early as possible and shorten the working day and no overtime.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,367 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    There are a few lads locally that kill a good few cattle. They are regular suppliers to the nearest factory. None of them send cattle in the night before. I sawan article a few years ago where a large feedlot operation in the UK said they would never deliver cattle the night before.

    Cattle who are put into a strange environment in a shed tend not to drink out of the drinkers provided. I even see the new feeders that are put in to the local factory animals would want very long necks akin to a giraffe to reach the hay in them.......if there was hay in them.

    2% is the general figure I have seen quoted and I would be inclined to accept it

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭Robson99


    What way do lads see thing playing out over the next 2 months. Have a few continentals up on 30 months but barely fit. Was thinking of feeding them another 6 weeks...a 10cent rise would cover the QA reduction. If I kill them I have to try and buy back...not easy in July



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,818 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    Anything fit I’d kill but if barely fit I’d let them lie on another while. Nothing worse than a 2= on a good bullock.

    I can see the price falling more especially when grass cattle come from September on but stores should fall accordingly.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,609 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    the fake meat companies are taking a hammering, how this goes on the other hand will be interesting, for lack of of a better phrase



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭smallbeef


    Any quotes for next week? Bullocks 4.90 this week and agent says its dropping to 4.85 next week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 319 ✭✭Rusheseverywhere


    The organic for the rest of the year is €5.50 for bullock/heifer up to and inc R+. Goes back up to €5.60 November and then €5.70 dec to €5.75 last to weeks of the year. If Organic 10% premium gives a possible idea of base in the ordinary trade.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,367 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Kill is beginning to tighten. It's back 4-500 over the jast few weeks. There is supposed to be 70-80k less cattle in the country and we are only 30k behind this time jast year which had a particularly strong kill early in the year.

    With the price of beef and the price of ration a lot of lads will be reluctant to feed cattle on grass. The price drop will stop soon I say

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    If the factories keep dropping the price....we will need another BEAM scheme....

    Jesus wept.....

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 381 ✭✭Niallers87


    Hi all, I sent a bullock 22mths to the factory last week and he graded O+1+, he killed out at 290kg DW but only paid €4.00 a kg, Granted he was stone mad but and may not have had the fat covering, but €4.00kg seems a bit harsh?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,363 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    You can't have any complaints if you got 4 euro for him ,he was no way fat at all ?

    Was he part of a load ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Id take the money and run.....it sounds like he was wired to the moon with a fat score like that....the factory did you a favour here.....

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,367 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    When you go down into FS1+ you are in a bit of trouble especially if not part of a load. If he was on grass the coloured fat would have even showed him to have more fat that he had.

    Usually as part of a load and if he was ok'ed with the agent and reason explained some plant will allow a bit of leeway. If he was just landed in no forewarning you probably would have been hit harder.

    Slava Ukrainii



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 381 ✭✭Niallers87


    Well he was a limo cross out of friesian and he was in good condition, had been on good grass as was a vasectomised bull running with cows, he was just getting rowdy.



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