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RTÉ admits paying Tubridy €345,000 more than declared

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,888 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Strictly you’re correct, but dressing it up as contractual (albeit legal) still doesn’t erase the stink from it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,362 ✭✭✭Sigma101




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,888 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I never said there was no personal abuse. I said most of the “abuse” was not cutting/personal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,956 ✭✭✭El Gato De Negocios


    Did he take a pay cut? To me, a pay cut is a cut to ones basic salary, ie my contract states that I will be paid €50k but due to cut backs, I now earn €45k, thats a pay cut. If he took a cut to his basic salary, then he wasnt lying. A lie of omission perhaps, a bit morally / ethically questionable perhaps, but are bonuses, sweeteners etc illegal?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,079 ✭✭✭skimpydoo




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,846 ✭✭✭Nermal



    The transactions at issue were created specifically in order for RTE to report the appearance of a salary cut without him actually incurring one.

    How likely do you think it is that these transactions were conducted without his knowledge of their substance and how they would enable that outcome?

    If you think it's unlikely, then the issue isn't 'not correcting' these false reports, it's assisting in their creation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,079 ✭✭✭skimpydoo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,888 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    He did take a pay cut for his tv and radio gigs. The issue here is his accepting taxpayers money for work/deal made to carry out appearances, that were pulled after 1 year. He still took large taxpayers sums when the deal/work was pulled.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,203 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06



    A stark update: The Journal has learned that the RTÉ summer staff barbecue has been cancelled following consultation with the NUJ.

    No one was available to comment on rumours Tubridy was to be roasted at it.

    *boom boom*

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Posts: 24,207 ✭✭✭✭ Iker Wrong Trainer


    You would think NK would have been on the blower to him straight off, giving sage advice as his trusted agent and his foremost national broadcaster customer and top of billing on his website. Either he didn’t take the advice or the advice was poor.



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  • Posts: 24,207 ✭✭✭✭ Iker Wrong Trainer


    I personally wouldn’t trust my performing poodle (if I had one) to the “Agent to the Stars”. Just my opinion if that was the initial advice given to Ryan to save his skin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    It's not Tubs fault the deal was pulled and if his contract guaranteed him that money, I see no problem with him taking it. The real question is why did RTE guarantee that money.

    I know that statement won't make me popular here but that's how I see it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭Strong and Faithful


    Fair play to whoever looks after the admin of the site👏 That was heavy going with threats etc.

    While I might disagree on various points with Walshb etc it's proper civilised, respectful debate. It's hard to stay calm when someone is threatening you. Anyway it's over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,203 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I don't think that is the real question, because there's still the question of the hiding \ obfuscation of the payments.

    But as a question it does lead to considerations:

    Maybe Tubridy demanded it. Maybe he said what if sponsor pulls out. So he would well know that the money in the later years was coming directly from RTE.

    And if that comes to light, that's not going to look good for him.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,888 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I get that. But really, plenty will see it as that take take take greedy attitude. I see it like that. Gimme it, it’s mine!!! Might not be illegal, but it comes across vulgar I think.

    It’s rampant as regards expenses in the public sector.

    RT is a very well off man who would want for nothing as regards material things. He does pontificate on being kind, and helping others n all that contrived fake nonsense from him; for him then to be taking large sums of taxpayers money for a gig that fell through (where he actually did nothing for) does really look poor.

    it’s the snout in the trough gravy train we’re looking at.

    His ill-judgment, and likely, greed has really damaged his reputation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭RoTelly



    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,122 ✭✭✭Gen.Zhukov




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,419 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    RTE summer bbq has been cancelled.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Seems to me that if he did demand the money and this comes to light, many of the last few posters will defend him by saying "Well wouldn't you, your telling me you wouldn't if you had is position, please your a hypocrite of the highest order".


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,700 ✭✭✭hometruths


    To answer your real question, whilst I agree it was madness of RTE to guarantee the money, in fairness to them they probably didn't anticipate the entire country would be sitting at home only allowed out for essential reasons.

    The side deal with Renault was pulled because of Covid, and the whole country was in lockdown, and life was a bit sh*t for everybody.

    This side deal was made to soften the blow of a paycut Tubridy publicly agreed to accept pre Covid, in normal times.

    But instead of understanding times had changed, and that Covid and lockdown had kyboshed his side deal, man of the people Tubs thought it better to enforce RTE's guarantee that they would make it up out of public funds.

    This is a little at odds with the whole we're all in it together, spirit of solidarity message being preached every Friday night on the LLS.

    So although you may not see a problem with him taking the money, maybe like Tubs you had a good Covid, but not everybody did and surely you can understand why some others find it objectionable?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,203 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    And I have the answer waiting... If I had his position I know the public backlash I'd face if these under the counter payments ever came to light.

    Purely for his own selfish reasons, Tubridy should have had the sense to put them above board or drop them after Renault pulled out.

    And if he doesn't have that sense, he had no business in a prominent national role commentating on current affairs.

    So whichever way you try to spin it: He is either an

    • ignorant idiot (didn't know about the under the payment aspect even though he was a Director involved)
    • or a liar (his statement on friday wasn't sincere)
    • or incompetent (a current affairs commentator who didn't think this would be a big deal)

    This is the defence from his 'defenders'!!!

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,888 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Well, it's the one area I wouldn't defend, as I think that this area is the real bugbear for people

    Gimme it, it's mine!!!!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,429 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Claire Byrne, Joe Duffy and Brendan O'Connor have come out and stated their wages. No hidden payments apparent.

    I still wonder how Tubridy had to have some of his hidden??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    As a contractor his contract can be terminated fairly quickly without needing to pay off the rest of his contract?

    I'm guessing its not that staright forward and he made sure the contact is water-tight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,203 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    As this is RTE, I'm be sadly expecting that the contract will be structured to the least possible advantage of the entity paying out the public funds, and as weighted as is possible in favour of the recipient.

    These people don't give a damn about how they spend other people's money.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Claire Byrne's statement says she took a €70k reduction for the TV show, so her Radio show is more expensive than a TV, I assume from that TV only hosts are earning €70k such as Anne Cassin are only on around €70k, but radio hosts such as Jenny Green are getting 100k?

    Then we discover she got €25k for Ireland's Smartest and it was not part of her RTÉ contract. A weekend of work BTW.

    Total 305,000 for 2023, it will be interesting to see if RTÉ put it down as 270k in 2025!

    And this goes back to my point on people who present shows for Indo Producers, does Jenny Z have a separate contract for DWTS with Shinawhil and another with RTÉ for 2FM, thus putting her out of the top 10 when potential she is in the top ten?

    If the above figures are correct Jenny Z should be getting at €40k for DWTS and €100k for 2FM.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,023 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    If all the top talent apart from tubridy can prove they werent getting top ups where the hell was the 50 million the whistleblower was talking about going to? Id imagine the board and heads of departments arent feeling too good about their jobs right now.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 276 ✭✭Jerry Atrick


    Correct...the public sector as a whole are absolutely rabid for expenses. Subsistence (while staying at home/with relatives) and mileage (absolutely exorbitant rates) are pounced upon like lives depended on it when available. Bertie let this monster out of the bag with benchmarking and it's rampaging ever since.



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