Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee poll not working - pl ignore

alzer100 · 23-06-2023 11:25AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120753577#Comment_120753577

Tubridy and everyone else in RTE involved in same, should be shown the door. RTE need to set an example of values expected of them as a public service broadcaster. That been said, that could lead to RTE Radio 1 broadcasting RTE Gold 24 hours a day!

RoTelly · 23-06-2023 11:30AM

Dee Forbes (who's on holidays and won't be returning) has been officially suspended from RTÉ

Cluedo Monopoly · 23-06-2023 11:31AM

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What's NK?

23-06-2023 11:34AM

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Sound serious. That can only mean one thing really. It's very damaging to Forbes reputation too.

Frank Grimes · 23-06-2023 11:39AM

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NK Management https://www.nkmanagement.ie/ - a lot of the people they represent either work as presenters, or appear regularly, on RTÉ.

Hotblack Desiato · 23-06-2023 11:53AM

It might as well stand for North Korea given the complete lack of transparency in how RTE spends our money.

From the Irish Times live updates:

12:36

Speaking of timelines, it is worth noting that the statement from RTÉ's board yesterday there was no mention of the fact that the Director General Dee Forbes had been suspended on Wednesday. Nor did the chairwoman of the board Siún Ní Raghallaigh see fit to mention it on the main evening news yesterday. Why not is just one of many, many questions that remain unanswered.

'Suspending' a DG already out the door is a joke but why the desire to hush it up?

The whole thing stinks.

Time to disband RTE.

23-06-2023 11:53AM

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Agree and a researcher team would be doing the bulk of the work.

alzer100 · 23-06-2023 11:53AM

Former chair Moya Doherty said that she was not made aware of the issue relating to the payments to Mr Tubridy up until she concluded her term in November 2022.

Of course AFTER she concluded her term she became aware. This is brilliant!!!

RoTelly · 23-06-2023 11:59AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120753787#Comment_120753787

AFAIK she was on the Remunerations committee so she'd have signed off on it.

alzer100 · 23-06-2023 12:13PM

But really, is this just all going to lead to a group of people in front of a PAC and nothing more?

Cluedo Monopoly · 23-06-2023 12:17PM

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Well some consultants will make more money producing a report, some execs will get a golden parachute, lessons will be learned (not) and FFG will stand idly by and spout a few fake accountability soundbytes.

alzer100 · 23-06-2023 12:21PM

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Regardless of one's political orientation, I think what you have said is on the money (pardon the pun).

23-06-2023 12:31PM

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I don't like much of RTÉ but disbanding is not the answer.

We need a truly independent public broadcaster, particularly for news. Their coverage of brexit and its fallout was excellent, Tony Connelly deserves all the recognition he get from covering EU affairs. They had very good coverage of pandemic, their NI coverage is great etc.

You get rid of RTÉ and you get, what? Virgin media TV and radio being owned by very limited number of people.

That's a recipe for polarisation in the chase for ratings/clicks. RTÉ serves a very important function but damn does it need to be taken by the scruff of its neck for salaries and entertainment output.

Similar sized public broadcasters, in Europe, are pumping out fantastic quality entertainment for their respective markets. RTÉ have made 2-3 shows of any quality, in the past 20 years.

RoTelly · 23-06-2023 12:33PM

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New organization, when people say disband they don't mean get rid of public service broadcasting, they mean that we need proper governance and we need to see quality programming being made, we now know in its current form RTÉ cannot do this.

I would disagree with you on 20, 2 or 3 in the last 20 years, RTÉ between 1999 and 2004 had some quality programming, diminished after 2004 until 2008 when it really went out of control. No one able to take the reins and as the title of the thread says always griping that it didn't have enough money.

avfc1874 · 23-06-2023 12:36PM

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Not at all, they'll say there can be no comment while investigating, she'll be gone in few weeks and that's that, it's all smoke and mirrors to protect each other

avfc1874 · 23-06-2023 12:40PM

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I heard a listener on newstalk telling Andrea, I think Tubs was great on the LLS and he works very , very very hard 🤔😒,

3 verys FFS deluded.

Arthur Daley · 23-06-2023 12:56PM

Think there is a lot of goodwill built up historically with the BBC and RTE for Public Service Broadcasting, and a lot of people cut them some slack over the years knowing the limits they were working around at times.

For RTE it seemed to mark it's 50 years fairly well in 2012, but since then it has been an absolute disaster. It did some things well over the years, the football coverage, reeling in the years, a lot of the coverage of Irish sports and culture, similar to what TG4 did well. But it's been totally derailed in the last dozen years or so.

Don't think the UK or Ireland should get rid of the public service broadcasters, but they need to be stripped back dramatically to what they were originally set up to do, and cover events that are relevant and relate to the local people.

RoTelly · 23-06-2023 01:12PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120754179#Comment_120754179

Simple and should have been done long ago

NEW RTÉ - 3 tv channels (TV1, TG GOLD and News) and 3 Radio stations (Radio 1, Lyric, Radio Gold)

NEW TnaG - 3 tv channels (TG4, CULA4, English Children's Channel, Partime Film Channel) and 3 radio stations (RnaG, Radio RiRa, Children's Radio)

New broadcaster - 2 TV channels (TV2 and TV2+1) and 3 radio (2fm, 2xm, pulse) sold or ran as a commercial entity.

Montroes as the national tv and radio studio and 2RN (networks) - a new company in state hands

RTÉ CO moves to the NCH.

Reform.

sxt · 23-06-2023 01:31PM

If only RTE could do one of it's gory primetime investigations on the RTE organization it's self . It would be amazing to see the true levels of debauchery, squandering,reckless spendthrift, and mountains and valleys of hidden skeletons to be uncovered

Hotblack Desiato · 23-06-2023 01:38PM

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We need a PSB alright but not the bloated mess that RTE has become.

Hotblack Desiato · 23-06-2023 01:40PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120754553#Comment_120754553

I wish that Secret RTE Producer Twitter account would come back!

Glaceon · 23-06-2023 01:43PM

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TG4 is completely separate from RTE now. RTE provide them with some programming but that’s about it.

RoTelly · 23-06-2023 02:02PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120754705#Comment_120754705

I know I am saying that they take over RnaG, RTÉjr and RTÉ Radio Junior

You'll note that I didn't mention the NSO or Cor nOg as they now sit in the NCH where the RTÉ CO can now be moved to.

fritzelly · 23-06-2023 02:09PM

Just move RTE under the remit of TG4

RoTelly · 23-06-2023 02:23PM

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You just create another megalith.

In the interim potential. Remove The RTÉ Board and the Executive Board, while the changes are made.

lumphammer2 · 23-06-2023 02:30PM

During Dee Forbes' watch the threatening not paying your licence fee ads were stepped up ... many programmes prominent in the era ... First Dates Ireland ... Operation Transformation ... Dancing With The 'Stars' ... all represented everything wrong with today's TV era ... useless reality fodder made on a shoestring ... Forbes' underhand sneaky payment of Ryan Tubridy will do little to get people to pay their TV licence ... quite the opposite in fact ...

Astartes · 23-06-2023 02:36PM

How long until the coverup will be justified because the "For roysh" will use it to further their agenda?

RoTelly · 23-06-2023 02:37PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120755019#Comment_120755019

She also cut back massively in many areas, though I would argue she did as her predessor did (Noel Curran)

Cuts to Children's Content by 75%
Cuts to Lyric, while threatening to move it out of limerick and even close the station
Cuts to News programming on TV, no news on RTÉ2, 1PM news and final current affairs programming end between 10:30 and 11:30, but mainly 9:30
Cuts to RTÉ2 save for sport, with extra epsiodes of First Dates, just look at RTÉ2's social media
Increase in funding from the license fee to 2FM
Little to no reform, she came in with ONE RTÉ and it never developed
Sold art works
Sold Land
Saw audiences fall
Cut funding to Drama
Comedy any comedy at all.

Anything else?

RabbleRouser2k · 23-06-2023 02:56PM

No Claire Byrne show this morning. Curiously absent with no explanation...

She's probably raging down the phone to Noel Kelly.

And to think of the reprehensible way she treated Joe Brolly... Not even a fan of Brolly, but less a fan of Claire Byrne.

Beta Ray Bill · 23-06-2023 04:47PM

I think there is more to come on this, I'd say it's only the tip of the Iceberg

It's quite incredible really. At this stage the board has to go (all of them), It's their job t ensure the Org is being run correctly. It's clear there was no one at the reins.

I originally posted that we didnt need XY or Z from the Public broadcaster and that they should scale back. At this stage of the game however it's clear that RTE needs to be wound up. It's a total nepotisim/boys club.

It's cheaper and easier to start again than to try and fix something that is this completely broken.

Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee poll not working - pl ignore