Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Its a longish thread , but shows pictures of cannibalized,corroding ka-52s , the fleet is being worked to death , even without ukrainian anti-aircraft fire ..

How are they terrorists when they haven't been charged with any crimes nor had a trial?

What wars have you protested against? When you protest is there a chance you will be locked away for 20 years or worse recieve a bullet to the head?

It's amazing how many people there are like you who preach about what others SHOULD do yet have never and probably never will be in the same position as those people.

I'm not going to get into a debate about the legality. I'm simply saying 20 people in prison vs a genocidal war are not comparable.

Now if America went on a genocidal war, I would expect Americans to speak up against it. If they didn't, I would look upon them as the same as the Russians.

My country has not gone to war yet, so I haven't protested against them. But if they pursued a genocidal war against a neighbour, I would be against that and would be disgusted at them.

Just because we're not in the same position as them, doesn't give them a pass or allow them to play the victim card. Right now, Russia is having a genocidal invasion against Ukraine, right now, **** all Russians appear to be against that. They voted Putin in, it wasn't a coup. They allowed him erode away the laws to cement his power and effectively become a dictator. I'm sorry if I have very little sympathy for them.

So many words, so much wrong.

There's not 20 there's 30, at one time there was over 700, 11 died in custody.

While the war Russia has inflicted on Ukraine is both illegal and despicable its not genocidal.

So because its not "your country" at war you won't protest against Russias war?

How do you know there are no protests against the war in Russia, its not as if state run TV is going to broadcast it.

As I said it's easy for you to pontificate from the comfort of your living room about what Russians should be doing when it's not you worried about your door getting kicked in at 3 AM and being dragged off to god knows where.

Not Genocidal.....

Yeah it's easy to understand your opinion when you can't see this war as Genocidal. When you equate 700 prisoners in Guantanamo Bay as comparable to this war and it's 50k+ war crimes (comparable as expecting the same public response/mass protest)

Ah I get it, pointing out hypocrisy is now considered "deflecting" 🙄

Scenario: You're a Russian male, you have a wife and 2 children, both of your parents live nearby.

Are you going to loudly protest and risk jail or being sent to the front line? Are you going to put your wife/children/parents in danger?

I guarantee (no matter what you will claim) that the true answer is no.

I'll give you a recent example how Russians by not speaking out are painting themselves into a corner. Sitting on an interview panel for software developers, a cv was passed for a candidate having studied at Samara State University. The applicant wasn't even considered.

727 work permits issued to Russian citizens in 2022. Compared to just 191 in 2021 and 205 in 2020. 100 issued so far this year.

If we take out 2022 all together since in 2022 more Russian citizens decided to leave the country then usual hence the increased numbers of permits issued, I am not seeing any decrease if we compare 2023 with 2020/2021. So it looks like decent specialists still have no issues finding employment in Ireland.

As for not speaking out. I know at least two Russian couples that travelled all the way to Dublin at the start of the war to protest alongside other people of various other nationalities in front of the Russian Embassy. However, as a Ukrainian, I personally think it's pointless because firstly nobody takes any notice of this whatsoever. Secondly, if Irish government itself doesn't care about kicking Russian diplomats out and even invite ambassador Filatov to do various interviews on the radio, what a Russian citizen standing by the Embassy in Dublin going to achieve? Nothing.

It's the flag waving Russians living in the safety of the west and having all the benefits of that which annoys people .Not a chance they would return to live in their great country and their great leader Putin .Personally I would love to see them booted out and go back home .

That's an absolutely fair criticism. But there are also plenty of Russians in the west who criticise their government and I personally know more than a few who hosted Ukrainian refugees or volunteered in other ways to relieve their suffering. They aren't all evil Putin supporters

The people you are talking about are not out waving flags and praising Putin even though they are not living under his regime. Of course there are lots of decent ones and I have posted earlier that I can understand those living in Russia that protesting is very dangerous .

Yeah, I set my account up in 2014 just so at this moment I could try and "deflect" from Russias invasion of Ukraine 🙄

I'm not defending russias invasion, I'm pointing out the stupidity of the usual posters trying to ostracise a whole nation of 140,000,000 because they're not happy with the level of "protest" by the population.

The fact protesting could get you and your family sent off to a siberian gulag or worse doesn't matter to the Irish lads posting from the comfort of thier homes, they're angry and bejeesus they will angry post to ensure the world knows it!