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Harry and Meghan

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,538 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Karppi


    If that’s what you want to think, do carry on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭rogber




  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 21,438 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    I'd loved to know how much they were actually paid, they could very well find themselves in financial bother if their deals don't produce the headline figures.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,338 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    That is nonsense that you think she would follow that RF lie. QEII might have followed that rule, but the rest of them don't.

    As for Chelsy - how do you know that she is not absolutely furious about her phone being tapped and she might be due a very, very large payout? As well as that, it seems that Harry and Chelsy are still good friends and that she is happy he is pursuing this?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,346 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    Even at this stage I'd say James O'Brien must realise that H&M are ridiculous now full of baloney and that alleged car chase. EMBARRASSING.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,338 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    Or, hotels were unwilling to take them because of the pap invasion which would affect their other guests. Maybe they own the property they were going to stay in and they didn't want the paps finding out where it is? Or even if they were staying with friends, they didn't want them beseiged by paps.

    Its quite amazing here, that people keep saying they are begging for publicity and at the same time saying that no one is interested in them. Can anyone explain to me how this line of thought is rationalised?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Karppi


    Setting aside your basically unsupportable premises, how could Chelsy be due a very, very large payout? She's not a party to the legal action. Harry is clearly still besotted with Chelsy - she featured heavily in Harry's statement in an action which he says is designed to protect Meghan. Somehow, I don't think either Chelsy or Cressida are besotted with Harry. They both walked away; both are married and have children. They grew up and got on. I look forward to you telling me that it was all due to the press because, of course it's never anything to do with Harry. And, presumably nothing to do with Harry's various antics, lap dancing club visits, drinking etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,538 ✭✭✭✭end of the road



    given he is and has been correct on everything he has stated in relation to them, no because it isn't true and he doesn't need to.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,538 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    the whole harry is still in love with chelsy nonsense is just another conspiricy theory by possibly the far right elements of the british tabloid press.

    there isn't any evidence for it and both parties are happily married.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,538 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    it is a fact that there are elements, mainly on the far right, who are out to sabotage them and they are in that case, victims.

    lead by the hard to far right elements of the british tabloid press, many of who's readership hang on every word.

    the attempt to access the records by the right wing think tank has been dismissed recently apparently, as it is ultimately none of their business anyway and is between the US and harry, the US so far not making any moves to withdraw his legal status.

    it is right they hold the racist, far right elements of the british tabloid press to account as said elements are out of control.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Karppi


    The Conspiracy Theory discussion is this way >>>>



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Karppi


    there isn't any evidence for it and both parties are happily married.

    Well, I’d agree Chelsy and her husband are, but I don’t see any evidence that H&M are. Quite the reverse, unfortunately. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t bear H&M any ill will. I just really don’t like their stunning hypocrisy and double standards.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Reportedly, Markle didn't conduct any of the interviews in the podcast, and wasn't even in the room with the celebrities being interviewed, instead she hired producers to conduct the interview and then dubbed her voice-over for the questions in the podcast presentation.



  • Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It was quite clear to most people that H & M were grifters.

    Their entire modus operandi over the last couple of years was to rake in the cash off the back of manufactured controversies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,611 ✭✭✭valoren


    The Bill Simmons comments are insightful. It wasn't a case of Spotify telling them to come up with a winner all by themselves or else you're out the door. Spotify knew they had no previous experience or established product and would need to collaborate.

    Simmons talks of one Zoom call with Harry he'd need to get drunk to tell the story of but even from that you can glean that they were getting help in not only brainstorming ideas but trying to actually come up with content which Spotify could actually monetise via attracting listeners. This is the guy who sold his podcast for $200 million. Someone who presumably knows how it all works, what sells, how they could involve someone with Harrys unique status as a Prince yet even he couldn't get anything useful. When Harry said they would work towards financial independence then I guess listening to and then acting on advice and ideas from experts is such work. It's as if people involved actually wanted them to succeed.

    He produced one podcast in that time, a podcast that was presumably contractually binding but I suppose such failure is down to far right racist balmpots who are hell bent on tripping them up. Or something.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,338 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    Simmons is being very unprofessional making comments like that. Netflix are the ones with the wrong strategy of just throwing money at big names and hope they will deliver. Some of the complaints I've read were that Meghan wasn't producing enough (unlike Joe Rogan who is on for about 10 hours a week).

    From what Simmons said about Harry and their video call, I'd say that maybe H&M were not going to go down the route that Simmons wants (more like Joe Rogan interviewing conspiracy theorists like Robert Kennedy Jnr last week for 3 hours, never actually correcting him on any of his wild claims). From Simmons reaction to Harry, its more like Harry told him (and Spotify) to get lost.

    Your right about Joe Rogan knowing what sells - any only ****, bullying, anti-vax misinformation etc. The US public really do have a very large appetite for that kind of stuff. Spotify got into trouble over his misinformation and agreed to monitor it, but from last week, it seems they are not bothering any more.

    Right wing Christian crowd / Fox News devotees are behind it, wound up by Fox News and Murdock (who is in the dock for a lot of **** stuff). Its a right wing think tank were in court to try and pin something on Harry (when it was clearly none of their business anyway since he has never had a criminal conviction). Nile Gardner (Maggie Thatchers former tea boy) is front and centre of a lot of this,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,611 ✭✭✭valoren


    So it's all Spotifys fault? Victims again eh. You know no one forced them to sign on the dotted line and presumably when they did they had ideas of their own. It was Spotify who invested their money and, shock horror, they wanted an ROI by proffering what might be commercial. Shocking.

    Rogans schtick is to give a voice to everyone and anyone even if someone personally finds it repugnant. Allowing people air their opinions/wild claims without being in the dock as such and letting listeners consider such views. That "bonkers" first amendment. Rogan corners that market. Why then would they expect Harry to do similar?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,538 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    you are seeing what you want to see tbh.

    it's quite clear that both h&m are happy, currently at least.

    they are away from the RF, the british tabloids are deranged as their money makers said that's it we're leaving, and harry has been back to the UK a few times and only royal cultists got uppity over it.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,538 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    the controversies m&h spoke about weren't manufactured but were very, very real.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Even the time traveling cell phone or the life-threatening danger of a wheelchair-speed chase?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Karppi


    Regardless of Bill Simmons comments, from what I’ve seen before he dropped the F bomb, Spotify identified a “lack of productivity” by Meghan.

    A whole new area of contention and disagreement is about to open up. Some of the Archetypes back of house team are asserting that Meghan didn’t attend many of the interviews - the questions were posed by a producer, and Meghan did voice overs later.

    Oh, what a tangled web…. You know the rest



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,338 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    Do you not consider it dangerous for innocent bystanders if paps on motorbikes are using the sidewalk in the chase. That is what was considered life threatening by Sussexes. I'd be inclined to agree with that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    They're just mopeds not man-eating mad max machines. Go to any city with a college campus and you'll see thousands of them, and hundreds of hoverboards, scooters, and longboards. They are a trailing cause of fatalities. The supposed emotions of the Sussexes do not satisfy a burden of proof.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,338 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    There are no victims in this scenario. Spotify and Archewell have parted company. Are you trying to claim that Spotify is a victim of H&M? You would think that Spotify would be able to put a tight enough contract together that they didn't turn themselves into victims. LOL.

    By the way, the podcast won the People's Choice Award, so I'm not sure why it was dropped because it wasn't popular. I suspect that they wanted a weekly podcast and Meghan wasn't prepared to do that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,338 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    Are you suggesting that Spotify didn't write a contract that would have specified the volume of podcasts that were to be produced? It looks like Spotify were victims of their own stupidity if that is the case.

    I think you have got the wrong end of the stick about Rebecca Sananes, who was the executive producer of Archtypes. Her gripe is that producers (who do most the work) are not recognised for their contribution. That was in response to a list of the top 40 podcasters who were all presenters. There were no producers included. I think it is bullshit that Meghan didn't attend many of the interviews. There is absolutely no way that she would not have been there for interviewee's Serena Williams (a personal friend) or Paris Hilton. Please provide a link to this please.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,705 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Yet they provided zero evidence that this actually happened. In a city that has millions of people with phones and CCTV cameras all over the place, no footage of this so called chase has ever come out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,338 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    Some triumvirate you have produced there - the daily mail, the NY Post and the Spectator! It seems to have been started by NY Post and the others have spun it. It was one interviewee who happens to live in New York. Fortunately, Gimlet has a studio in New York. So, for Meghan to interview her, she would have had to either go to New York or for Yarris to travel to LA. Fair play to them for saving the planet. The interviewee does seem to have been delighted to have been involved in the podcast.

    As for the low productivity comment. That could have meant that two seasons were agreed initially and the 2nd season didn't get to be produced.

    Worth reading this article from Fox Business on how Spotify are changing their business model to now just providing the tools to podcasters and have got rid of 200 of their production staff in an effort to cut costs.

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/entertainment/meghan-markles-archetypes-podcast-spotify-wont-be-renewed-one-season-report

    PS - that bloke Simmons didn't do Spotify and himself any favours with his comments. If that is how he is going to speak about his clients if they don't do what he wants, I think some will give him a wide berth.



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  • Site Banned Posts: 12,922 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    And yet the actual police in New York don't think there's anything to investigate....I would be more inclined to agree with the experts on this one.



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