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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,987 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Germany circa 1936

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    high-res version: https://t.co/il4m9Xr9aa



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭stopthevoting


    My first thought was how strange it is that "Water & Other Countries" are actually labelled in the map legend.

    Then I realised what a terrible map it is; Various shades of blue for land areas, Provincial boundaries disguised by the same lines used for boundaries of smaller areas, Atlantic coastline of the USA omitted but still showing lakeshore edges in the USA.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭stopthevoting




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,675 ✭✭✭Rawr


    It's facinating to read such a cutesy and fun-looking tourism map of Germany with all these happy people doing stuff...

    ...and then you see the flags.


    What is kind of chilling is that a map like this looks so similar to fun maps I've seen as a kid of various innocent fun places. You can see the fun-loving mindset of the artist...

    ...and then you see the flags.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,794 ✭✭✭yagan


    I lived in Perth in Australia for a few years which is a gigantic urban sprawl and I read that there was more households with four or more registered cars than there were carless households.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,523 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Per the 2021 census, in the Greater Perth region 4.8% of households have no motor vehicle, while 19.2% have three or more. (The report I've seen doesn't give figures for four or more.)



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,987 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    It's an animation but interesting nonetheless...




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,435 ✭✭✭chewed


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,662 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    My missus grew up in Peterborough On. It’s surrounded by towns name Cavan, Baileboro etc. My in laws live just off Monaghan street.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,723 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Irish language map of the world (a bit hit-or-miss in places).




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,749 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    How to get as many letters into Mexico as possible!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭Evade


    Irish really gave up on the no j, k, q, v, w, x, y, or z thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,523 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus



    Irish became a written language, and adopted the Roman alphabet, earlier than most European languages. At the time the letter W did not exist, and J and V were not considered distinct letters - up to that point (and well beyond) they were variants of I and U. The Romans did use Y and Z but did not consider them to be Roman letters — rather, they were borrowed from the Greek alphabet. The Romans used K, but only rarely.

    So, the limited range of the Irish alphabet reflects the limited range of the Latin alphabet at the time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭Evade


    My point was the used to bend over backwards to replace v, w, etc and they just seem to have given that up.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,562 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Translating placenames is not a simple business. As we know in Ireland.

    I'm sure there's a term which would distinguish a foreign placename which is 'translated' into English (e.g. Lisboa to Lisbon) from placenames which are not (e.g. Porto)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,523 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus



    Yup. Up to the 1950s the convention when adopting words from other languages was to spell them using Irish orthographical conventions. So, e.g., howitzer (a kind of artillery piece bigger than a mortar but smaller than a cannon) entered Irish as habhatsar; bicycle was adopted into Irish as badhsuiceal before it was (mercifully) supplanted by rothar. But from the 1960s on V, J and so forth are regularly used in foreign loan-words, and many loan-words adopted into Irish before then have been re-spelt using foreign letters (volta for the unit of electrical potential; jib for the sail; vacsaín for vaccine.)

    Curiously, only some foreign letters are used in this way. Q, W and K are almost always replaced. W, ironically, is often replaced with V (vombat, a wombat; Vicipéid, Wikipedia).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,523 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    It;s a mistake to think that the English (and indeed Irish) names of foreign places (at least within Europe) are "translations" of the modern name used by the inhabitants. Rather, the name of a place in different languages will often have evolved out of a common root. "Lisbon" isn't a translation of "Lisboa"; they both evolved out of "Olissippo", which is what the Romans called it.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,562 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    thanks, that's not something i'd known before.

    another related musing - how many countries are like ireland, and would have two official names for each town? do french speaking areas of canada have different names in english and en francais, for example?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭Evade


    I went to a gaelscoil and I still remember a lot of the interesting spelling to remove v and w from the students' names.



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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 78,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Usually multi-lingual places do, e.g. Brussels/Bruxelles, or places in South Tyrol, like Bozen/Bolzano.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,749 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I have never quite understood this need to change students' names to Irish. If you were taken to live in France or Spain would your name be literally translated to French or Spanish by the school? Your name is your name. If you are called John then that is your name, not Sean or Jean or Johann. They may be versions in other languages, but they are not your name. If your parents wished you to be called Sean they would have named you Sean. If you choose to go by the name your parents gave you then that is your name. You could say 'I was named John but I go by Sean' then that is your prerogative, not something someone else should decide.

    You may choose to change your name to something more pronounceable by local tongues but that is your decision. You may be given a nickname by others if they find your name too difficult, but that is a casual arrangement that you may or may not go along with. Your name is your most basic personal possession.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,015 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    What about names that are spelt the same in Irish and English, but are pronounced totally different. Shona (in english is show-na) while in Irish it's Shona (hoe-na). At least it was in the school I went to



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,562 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    going back to my point about dual placenames, maybe it's more embedded in the irish psyche that you can have two names, as we've two official languages?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,920 ✭✭✭PommieBast


    Is that legally true? English is the de-facto language but only Irish is mentioned in the constitution.

    Incidentally I read somewhere that Australia does not have an official language..



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,562 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder



    ARTICLE 8

    1 The Irish language as the national language is the first official language.

    2 The English language is recognised as a second official language.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭Evade


    It's legislated that way the same as summer time being the official time here whereas evey where else that has daylight savings uses winter time. It doesn't really make sense but it is technically true.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,449 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Post by Peter Donaghy on Twitter. Affordability of housing, he reckons Cork and Limerick are good with decent job prospects but houses at not outrageous prices. Derry if you want a bargain.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,923 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    So the colours on the map respond to the capture on the xy map... I count 7 captures, but only 5 colours.


    but it's solid science.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭Evade


    There's black, navy, dark blue, blue, light blue, yellow, and red. The black and navy are very similar.



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