The Dominance of Dublin GAA *Mod warning post#1*

The gap in absolute numbers between Antrim or Down and Dublin is larger than the gap between Antrim or Down and Leitrim. I'm not sure what is difficult to understand about this.

Ah now your the one going on about Dublin advantages non stop , tis yourself that has an obsession with Dublin lad .

So lets ignore Kerrys domination 84 Munster titles 38 All irelands , and all you can say is Yeah but Dublin .....money population home games....

Dublin has 3 times the population of Antrim

Antrim has 17 times the population of Leitrim

I'm not sure what is difficult to understand about this either .

It all comes down to whether you want a fair and equal competition, that means significant mergers and more splits than Dublin, or whether you want an advantage for one of four or five counties.

The opposition to other splits and to mergers show that the motivation is the latter rather than the former. Not prepared to engage with those who are only looking to advantage their own.

Mayo Kerry Tyrone etc " the bigger teams " are well used to playing in Croke Park are they not ?

I agree it comes down to wanting a fair and equal competition, that's why I want Dublin alone to be split- it makes the All-Ireland a lot fairer and more equal. Dublin alone are uniquely advantaged (measured by the combination of population, funding, playing at home etc) so they alone should be split, but I agree that voluntary mergers can also be offered.

You'd need to be wary of the "going back decades" part of the argument as the case for splitting Dublin (which is not to say that I agree there is one) weakens considerably. Dublin has four Minor football titles since the 1950s. And only 8 Senior football titles between 1920s and 2011. Not figures to bolster an argument for splitting Dublin. It does seem right now that the Jim Gavin years were an aberration rather than becoming what, as so many claimed, would be the norm.

Likewise, few talked about Croke Park as an advantage when Dublin were not winning.

The truth is he really only wants to weaken Dublin , to help his own County.

The biggest argument in favour of splitting Dublin is that so many talented players slip through the net.

With the volume of players coming through at underage, men and women, it really is impossible to identify the top 30, 60, 90 at a particular age group - itay be more doable at senior, but that's only because many of those who miss out drop out of the game entirely.

I genuinely believe that Dublin split into 3/4 regions would produce 3 or 4 teams on a par with the current Dublin side.

Think of the positives, a real Leinster championship again, 4 times as many boys and girls getting to play at intercounty level, the local interest that ensues from that.

I currently coach underage with a large Dublin club, the numbers we have in each year group are probably not dissimilar to what Leitrim have!

The catchment area of the club is on a par with the population of Roscommon, Monaghan or Sligo.

If there were 3 or 4 Dublin teams they would most likely playing in division 3 of the league rather than challenging for all Ire glory .The odd one would reach div 2 that's about it .You would think Dublin were winning every all Ire at all levels the way some are talking .

It's not just the success or lack of it though- it's the fact Dublin are unfairly advantaged. If the success came fairly, I wouldn't care. Just because Dublin have historically failed to take full advantage of their success doesn't mean they weren't always unfairly advantaged.

People said Dublin wouldn't win 6 in a row, every Leinster bar one since 2005 too- we can see how those predictions turned out.

The funding only took off in earnest in the 2000s, and Croke Park, while always an unfair advantage, became a much larger one after Dublin started playing all league games there from 2010 or so.

This is a very good argument and really shows how a split of Dublin will enhance the game as much or more in Dublin as in every other county.

Cork population 520,000 Leitrim population 35,000

Absolute difference -roughly 485,000

Relative difference - roughly 14.4 x 😂🤣

Plenty of Counties have unfair advantages over other Counties , so again Dublin shouldn't be split unless splits and mergers are Country wide.

Again the population, funding gaps between Dublin and everyone else dwarf any other counties. There are discepancies in population and funding between Cork and Leitrim, sure, but they are nothing compared to the same gaps that Dublin has. As has been repeatedly pointed out, it is the nature, scale, combination and duration of advantages that Dublin enjoy in terms of population, funding, home pitch advantage etc. that mean they should be split.

Anyway, your arguments are just endless whatboutery. Dublin alone are uniquely advantaged. There may be differences between other counties but nothing on the scale of the differences that benefit Dublin. You may not think Dublin need to be split but you do need to accept this.