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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,159 ✭✭✭wassie


    ...but also hundreds of thousands now widowed mail order brides for their population that has a serious male imbalance.

    Won't happen...The vast majority of the Chinese population regard themselves as belonging to the same race (Han chinese). Anyone of mixed ethnicity is considered and outsider and will never be fully accepted into Chinese culture as one of their own.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 54,506 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    The rate of Ukrainian advancement sounds like an absolute rout in places. Once they've gotten through these defences that Russia has all year to prepare it's probably only going to get faster.

    Remains to be seen how they deal with the more built up areas and cities.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,223 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    That sounds very racist to me.


    Anyway Ukraine making gains and they'll continue. A large area will be liberated and the frontline moved up but the question is what happens when they reach the main main fortifications.

    Either way it's a positive development because every km they move forward is a km the artillery and HIMARS move forward.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    Lads, don't pretend that you can definitively spot Photoshopped or AI images, and don't pretend that checkers can definitively spot them either. You and they can spot some, you and they can't spot others, and you and they will report false positives.

    I've been working professionally with Photoshop since 1994 in graphic design, photo retouching and processing, and compositing, and while there are of course tell-tale signs of cloning, compositing, the liquify tool, etc. a lot of what people claim to be those tell-tale signs in an image can be compression artifacts, noise anomalies, low resolution. In my view, that image is too low quality to make any kind of determination for it's veracity - in isolation - either way.

    I ran that image though the manipulation detection tool Forensically, that uses Error Level Analysis, Clone Detection, Component Analysis and a few other methods to detect photo manipulation. It shows no manipulation at all for this image. Now before anyone gets too excited, I also ran an image where I used the new AI tools in the latest Photoshop Beta to remove two birds from a picture I took myself of them fighting on a lake. It reported some cloning - but in places in the image that actually were not touched at all. The bits of the image where the birds were actually removed passed undetected. What this tells me is that these tools are completely unreliable when AI image manipulation is used.

    I then ran the image though Maybe's AI Art Detector on Huggingface. It came back with it being 76% artificial. Now before anyone gets too excited, I then ran some images that I 100% know have not been AI generate or manipulate in any way though it. One of them came back as 91% AI - even though I know for a fact it is a 100% legitimate documentary photograph. AI image detection tools are unreliable.

    This image is very low resolution and it looks like it was originality noisy as hell, then de-noised and over-sharpened, and there's a hell of a lot of compression artifacts in it - all of which you might expect from the low spec video camera in a surveillance device, but which could also be used after the fact to homogenise the image and disguise AI generation, cloning or compositing. It can only be taken on face value, and you'd need a higher quality image, the original video clip, or other independent images of the same scene to verify or discredit it.

    I'm not saying the image is fake, I'm not saying is isn't. What I'm saying is that anyone who - when looking at that image in total isolation - makes a determination one way or the other is relying on confirmation bias more than any possible objective analysis, because the image in itself isn't high enough quality to do any objective analysis.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 941 ✭✭✭Baba Yaga


    just looking at that clip of putin above...never realised he was such a short arse! definitly a case of short arse syndrm going on there!!!

    yo! donnie vonredactedpants,vlad putin,benji netanyahu,vic orban..you sirs are the skidmarks on the jocks of humanity!!!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    Fake or not, it says an awful lot about how bad the Russian defence is that they have to recycle different views of the same incident at the same location several days ago, over and over and over again to convince us that Ukraine is being "hammered". It's almost as if they have absolutely no other footage of things going badly for the Ukrainians.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭Seanmadradubh


    The OTT reaction to some destroyed Ukr armour really shows how easy it is to influence some peoples perception of reality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,012 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    It appears now there's a threat of an ammonium plant in Crimea being targeted by the Russians.

    Just because...divilment.

    Chatter is also children have been moved to Crimea from the occupied areas.

    Hopefully nothing happens. But Putin's army could be trying the or else card again.

    An explosion at the plant could have ammonia gas covering the region.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,602 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    I remember a story in the paper about 10+ years ago. He was getting his picture taken with a group of women, they were quite tall, they were banned from wearing high heels for the picture.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭zv2


    The Sherman was the worst tank ever. Did well in the far east though where it could hide in the dense growth.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭Seanmadradubh


    "When we see two or three of those brigades (around 500-750 armored vehicles) focused on a narrow front, it will then be possible to say that the main attack has probably started and where it’s happening."

    Reality check.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭Seanmadradubh


    Ah now, you're just falling for British propaganda, it's understood these days Napoleon was short by todays standards but in 18/19th century France he was average height, and a real Master Strategist (sorry Darth).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,499 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Very brave of you making such an unequivocal statement about the Sherman on this thread.

    This lad goes on a bit, so if you want to, you can skip to 1:15 (1h 15m, not 1m 15s 🙂)


    Post edited by josip on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,360 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


     because the image in itself isn't high enough quality to do any objective analysis.

    Of course you can, my objective analysis is that on the balance of probability given the variables we have it is more than likely Russian Propaganda.

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    The above picture also fit your criteria of objective analysis.

    But again using logic, common sense and variables we do know, we can on the basis of probability objectively say unfortunately there isn't a dinosaur living in a lake in Scotland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,843 ✭✭✭weisses




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,660 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    Straight is the question (unfortunately).

    I am unsure if I would trust the Republican party on this any more. A lot of them (new breed of politician coming up following template set by Trump, and some of the media "thought leaders") don't particularly seem to care about democracy now.

    Hopefully, a gamed election to get the right result for the Republican party (I suppose somehow through technicalities and using control of the legal system in key places rather than honest to god corrupt ballot stuffing/riggging!?) is still a bit of a bit of "black swan", and the US is not that far gone as yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    My post was specifically about the definitive claims of cloning, AI generation and compositing that have been made in this thread about the picture. There is no evidence of them, and the image is unsuitable for such analysis, and I explained my reasoning on this in detail.

    The Nessie picture actually bolsters my point - it is evidence of nothing. It's not evidence of a dinosaur in the lake, and it's not evidence of any specific mode of fakery. It - in isolation - is entirely indeterminate.

    That either image, or the situation they claim to represent, can potentially be dismissed for other reasons is an entirely separate, and indeed valid, argument.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,653 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Well, I figure if it’s worth saying, it’s worth using a dozen words where most folks would use four. Plus add a tangent…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Turkish drone strike on Russian forces in Syria this could get interesting.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,568 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    If accurate, that's definitely going to add spice into the mix today. So far just that source reporting on it.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    The issues begin when they start losing those vehicles on a regular basis and they will lose armor in numbers,they don't have Air cover, air defenses and artillery capable of keeping up with the various advances ,those losses on the 6th was only the start,it's going to get worse as more and more vehicles get brought to the the counter offensive, lieing and downplaying losses won't help things nor while crying fake news on images of destroyed Ukrainian tanks and armor,

    We have one genuine expert and historian on this thread,

    The majority are amateurs basically copy and pasting tweets ,

    But Ukraine are taking losses now and will do until they push the Russians out or face a stalemate .

    Zero point denying it if only for likes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    What's AI got to do with it, other than it's the current buzzword beloved by social media? I work with graphics a fair bit and well used to image manipulation - nothing AI about it, it's done with human intelligence and software. Agree though with Gregor, the quality isn't great on this - so whilst it certainly has the strong look of a manipulated image, it's probably best not to state that it's real evidence of anything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    "We have one genuine expert and historian on this thread"

    And which one are you?? :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,352 ✭✭✭ZeroThreat


    Well if all the abrams/challengers/leopards get knocked out or captured, that's going to reflect poorly on the reputation of western arms manufacturers.

    Do they not have self-propelled artillery now to keep up with armour, or do they still rely on towed guns?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,777 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    More reliable source here


    FWIW Visegrad24 are known to post complete fabrications - then when called out on it, delete the tweets and block anyone who draws attention to it.

    Plenty more reliable correspondents for Syria/Turkey/Mid East than a Polish right wing fanboy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 Quantum123


    So do you think they will strike close to Tokmak for an initial push to Melitopol, I do honestly hope the ukranian army crushes them and breaks through those defensive lines.

    If Ukraine breaks through those lines its even more impressive considering Russia moved soldiers out of Kherson since the russians blew the damn.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭zv2


    Dramatic video. No comment on what it is. May be Nova Kakhovka.


    Post edited by zv2 on

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout



    You really gave that first post a lot of time eh!

    (Honestly I'm just grateful a zombie account isn't posting pro-Kremlin propaganda for once)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke III


    completely off-topic (or somewhat) post: is there a way to search for all the posts a particular poster has made in a particular thread?


    the search function seems a bit of a blunt instrument but no doubt I am using it wrong. Thanks in advance.



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