Harry and Meghan

jm08 · 10-06-2023 11:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120698188#Comment_120698188

I think you will see if you look again that I was responding to a comment that Harry wasn't winning the court of public opinion. Thats why I pointed out that 73% of those surveyed believed that the information was obtained illegally.

In this editorial from Irish Indo, Rosita Sweetman also claims that Harry has the support of the younger generation who have been abused by the the billionaire owning newspaper class in the UK. She also comments on how important what Harry is doing for the UK.

https://archive.md/2023.06.09-235325/https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/rosita-sweetman-we-should-acclaim-harry-as-our-prince-of-truth/a1934089512.html

jm08 · 10-06-2023 11:58PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120699316#Comment_120699316

Why is it hateful? The information was not illegally obtained. From what I gather, you believe that all information should be up for grabs including that information was obtained illegally. Whats the difference between everyone knowing that William is circumcised and Harry having glandular fever as a kid? Why are you criticial of that information being given out in a book and see nothing wrong with private information about Harry having glanduar fever on the front page of a newspaper.

You don't seem to have any issue with the tabloids publising what was said in the book all over the tabloids either. Kind of strange that you would be critical of what Harry disclosed, but see nothing wrong with the tabloids amplifying William's personal details.

Overheal · 11-06-2023 12:04AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120698121#Comment_120698121

YouGov, ran a poll, in the middle of a court case, about the court case?

Did you mean his popularity? It's irrelevant.

U.K. polling agency YouGov does regular popularity surveys covering members of the royal family. It collected data showing that between 71 and 81 percent of the British public liked Harry between 2011 and 2019.

At the same time, his net approval rating, also factoring in those who disliked him, fluctuated between a high of +70 at the time of his engagement to Meghan Markle and a low of +49 in October 2019, following a year of relentlessly critical media coverage.

These are the kinds of figures the country's leading politicians can only dream of, with Prime Minister Rishi Sunak at -8 as recently as May, with opposition leader Keir Starmer at -14.

Harry was also far more popular than his father, King Charles III, whose net approval rating fluctuated between a high of +32 and a low of +4. Queen Camilla's rating fluctuated between 0 and -19 during the same years.

The collapse in Harry's standing with the British public appeared to begin after he announced his decision to quit royal life in January 2020.

This past January, after the publication of his memoir, Spare, YouGov data put Harry's net approval rating at -44, substantially below Sunak and Starmer.

https://www.newsweek.com/prince-harry-fearing-stabbing-clashes-polling-court-mirror-phone-hacking-1805001

suvigirl · 11-06-2023 07:02AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120700213#Comment_120700213

I cannot believe that you could try to justify Harry selling secrets about his own family.

Noone thinks that invasion of privacy is ok. Noone thinks that hacking phones is ok.

And noone thinks that writing a book selling private family information is ok.

In fact, I would consider it worse. It's a complete betrayal. Papers have no conscience, they exist to sell. You would think, having such strong feelings about the papers invading his privacy, that he would be the last to do it to anyone else!

Multipass · 11-06-2023 09:45AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120700213#Comment_120700213

Your circular logic is making my head spin.

jm08 · 11-06-2023 10:03AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120700697#Comment_120700697

If you are unable to answer any of those comments, maybe you need to give your head a spin and realise that you express a hatred of Harry & Meghan (and not for the tabloid journalists) that is very difficult to understand.

Leg End Reject · 11-06-2023 12:29PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120700191#Comment_120700191

The court of public opinion is irrelevant in an actual court though, that was my point.

Leg End Reject · 11-06-2023 12:33PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120700213#Comment_120700213

Eh, no one is saying personal information should be published at all!

All that's being pointed out is the hypocrisy. Harry is complaining about tabloids publishing personal information about him, but he has no qualms about discussing his family's personal information in interviews and his books.

This 'Do as I say, not as I do' attitude is what grates, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

jm08 · 11-06-2023 03:07PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120700510#Comment_120700510

It says a lot thought about the people of the UK, when 73% think that the newspapers obtained information illegally, but yet think Prince Harry is wrong to call them out on it. Whats wrong with them?

What private information did Harry sell? Cleared up the lie that the Royal Family / their staff made up that Meghan made Catherine /Chariotte cry when in fact it was the other way around and Catherine had plenty of opportunity to clear that one up. The family 'secret' that William has a rotten temper and he physically attacked Harry. That William along with Harry was circumcised. Well, Harry had glandular fever (as a minor) and the world was told about it. You seem to not take into account that the information was also about Harry as well. Anyone who writes a biography 'sells' private information about their family because that is their information as well. Harry telling his story is not the same as some tabloid newspaper illegally getting very personal information and splashing it all over the newspapers. They have stolen that information. Harry has not stolen anything from the Royal Family.

Multipass · 11-06-2023 03:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120700723#Comment_120700723

Quote my hatred, let’s see your evidence!

jm08 · 11-06-2023 03:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120701117#Comment_120701117

He is complaining about them stealing personal information about him and publishing it. He hasn't stolen anything from his family (although I think his family's behaviour was very poor when they pulled his security at short notice and told the paps where he was staying in Canada). Only Charles & William knew where they were staying.

Leg End Reject · 11-06-2023 05:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120701616#Comment_120701616

Meghan's father didn't steal the letter she sent him, do you think he was right to publish it and talk to the press? It was about him and his family after all.

suvigirl · 11-06-2023 06:47PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120701609#Comment_120701609

You're right, it's not the same, it's much worse.

And most people writing autobiographies run it past the people it affects first.

suvigirl · 11-06-2023 06:52PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120701616#Comment_120701616

Yep, I'm sure not one single other person knew where they were.

including royal staff, met police, Canadian police, local authorities, British embassy staff in Canada, airlines/air crew, friends of both of theirs, airport staff in Britain and Canada, estate agents etc etc etc..........

jm08 · 11-06-2023 07:40PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120702278#Comment_120702278

Meghan's father didn't publish the letter. The Mail on Line did. I think Meghan's father would have been quite entitled to reveal the letter's contents.

Be right back · 11-06-2023 11:40PM

And round and round we go in circles!

Leg End Reject · 12-06-2023 10:27AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120702587#Comment_120702587

Were you active on the thread when that was in the news?

Be right back · 12-06-2023 10:42AM

Twitter gossip.

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Boggles · 12-06-2023 10:50AM

That seems legit alright. 🙄

jm08 · 12-06-2023 02:32PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120702442#Comment_120702442

Why would you run it past people it affects? Is it to proof read it or make changes to it? For example, would William want Harry to take out the part about where he hit him in Harry's kitchen?

jm08 · 12-06-2023 02:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120702449#Comment_120702449

Well, Harry or Meghan didn't tell anyone else so Charles & William must have told a few people when it eventually got back to the tabloids.

They had their own security with them. They were not going to tell anyone (and make their own jobs harder). The Canadian police/British Embassy staff would have known they were in Canada, but they would not have known where they were staying.

The whole world was looking for Ghislaine Maxwell and she was living quietly just outside New York, so it is possible for people to 'disappear'.

jm08 · 12-06-2023 02:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120704169#Comment_120704169

I can't remember. Why do you want to know that anyway?

Leg End Reject · 12-06-2023 03:33PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120705377#Comment_120705377

You weren't, but can you explain to me why you had an issue with him taking part in a photo shoot trying on suits? Surel, in your opinion, that's his prerogative? Just like it's ok for Harry to make money spilling the beans on his family because there wasn't anything illegal or underhand in Thomas Markle trying on suits and allowing his photo to be taken?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/116881332#Comment_116881332

valoren · 12-06-2023 03:47PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120705336#Comment_120705336

Maybe he’d at least expect his brother to provide some context as to why he was there e.g. who really knows but it may well have been the case that there were reports of bullying behavior towards staff as it was but it was initially dismissed as exaggeration but when one of the staff breaks down in tears in front of you and having had to comfort and reassure them it becomes clear how f*cking serious it is and so you ring your brother to discuss it and implore him/them to cop the f*ck on and do better but then your brother hangs up on you and so, understandably furious, you haul your ass over to his place and, piping hot, you chew him out for being unnecessarily abusive bullying assholes to the staff but since he’s clearly not listening, and out of pure frustration, you feel the need to literally shake some sense into him and it results in a scuffle where his drunk/high ass ends up on the floor. You leave in disgust as you’d be more productive talking to the wall and accept it can’t work. In the end they “leave” (translation: get fired) months later, they go away to Canada/America and, being incapable of admitting fault or wrong doing, they play professional victims and you can’t do anything but watch them acting holier than thou as they throw you all under the bus as racists and the actual source of all this trouble/as the ones who were leaking to the press out of jealousy against them. All you can do is accept the family is completely broken but you get solace as, over time, more and more people see them as laughing stocks/hypocrites.

When you’re giving your (one) side of the story in a book and you know full well that there will be no rebuttal then it makes sense to make yourself out to be the hero/victim.

Itssoeasy · 12-06-2023 05:30PM

So any more news of the two hour near catastrophic car chase in New York ?

Overheal · 12-06-2023 05:37PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120706072#Comment_120706072

Not a peep.

superflyninja · 12-06-2023 05:53PM

Ive been away a while. Just catching up, so the high speed, near catastrophic NYC car chase turned out to be lies then? And Harry is unable to provide evidence of phone hacking in court?

My word. What an utter shock.Lawks. Im truly bowled over.

In seriousness though, he went to court without a scrap of evidence? Just feelings and suspicions? Is all the evidence out yet?

Leg End Reject · 12-06-2023 07:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120706072#Comment_120706072

It seems it was at such a high speed that no one actually saw it, and it was too fast for cameras to pick up. 🤣

200mg · 12-06-2023 07:26PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120706179#Comment_120706179

At this stage it's looking more and more a need of a visit of the men/women in white coats. It's cant be healthy to be this paranoid. Or is Paranoia a side effect of that stuff he uses recreationally.

ceadaoin. · 12-06-2023 08:19PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120706507#Comment_120706507

Even their most staunch defenders on here have stopped mentioning it. NYPD said there was nothing to investigate. Embarrassing

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