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You've been looking in the wrong direction, the dangers are coming from the Left - read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    TN supreme court finds no constitutional basis for the state's new anti-drag show law.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Yet the actual word “drag” doesn’t appear in the statute. Instead lawmakers changed the definition of adult cabaret in Tennessee to mean “adult-oriented performances that are harmful to minors.”

    Kinda shot themselves in the foot with that one - the performers have repeatedly indicated that their events are not "adult-orientated".

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    I honestly thought De Santis was an option for the Republicans - Trump without the ignorance or ego - turns out I was completely wrong.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Excellent documentary about the groomer panic movement

    Which adequately sums up the major motivations of this thread to date: constant moral panic propagandizing that 'everyone we don't like = a pedophile.' When you think about it none of the evidenced outlets (like Fox News) ever report live on any recent scandals where registered republicans, christian youth pastors, etc. etc. are being prosecuted and/or convicted quite frequently for everything from videotaping girls in the shower, to rape. That all goes away, to hyperfixate on reporting about this alleged panic over drag queens that we see on thread here too. By contrast for the past several months to a year this conversation about drag queens has focused on a handful of specific edge cases, and those edge cases don't actually involve any sexual contact with minors. This thread is bereft of these examples, but that's not the point of these threads: Castration and daily beatings followed by a life time of isolation in a cold cell is what they deserve before they go to hell" said one user adjacently about a trio who were prosecuted for sexual contact with minors when it happened in Ireland (where the politics are not nearly so polarized, where they 'have a side' they want to seize power). And there is the same call as the panic-movement, for the extralegal, vigilante punishments like daily beatings and castrations.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Nobody is saying that right-wing extremism doesn't exist. You can point to all the examples of same, and nobody will disagree with you.

    What some people are arguing is that extremism also comes from the far-left, and this extremism is worth keeping an eye on too.

    The least legitimate position to hold is arguing that extremism comes only from one side.

    It's also worth adding that extremism itself doesn't only refer to political violence. Ideological extremism and its effects can manifest in many other ways besides.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    It hasn’t manifest though. The drag queens aren’t raping little kids like the priests are. And yet we have rampant calls for vigilantism against the LGBTQ community. People even tripping over themselves to break the law trying to out people using the “wrong” bathroom

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    And people are happy to pay the bail money of someone snapping photos of people in the public restroom. Twisted logic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,428 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Of course it has bloody well manifested, don't take us for fools.

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    The City of Leipzig is also currently under a night time curfew because of violent far left riots protesting the conviction of a woman for premeditated violence against far-right people!!

    Back in the day, the far left had almost a monopoly on violent terrorist action, especially in Europe.

    The Red Army Faction (aka Die Baader-Meinhof Gruppe), Action Directe, Red Brigades, etc.

    Bombings, shootings, hijackings, kidnappings, burnings, all their stock in trade for about 30 years. The latter even kidnapped and killed the Prime Minister of Italy.

    Theres a playbook there, don't be too surprised to see it opened again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,810 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    The 2008 Baader Meinhof Complex film about that group perfectly explains how deluded that group was.

    Are anti-oil, environmental groups, eco terrorists automatically defined as Left Wing? I would guess they probably are more communist/socialist leaning than being white nationalists leaning but I dont think Karl Marx has had much input into their cause.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Sorry but who is raping or abusing a kid in these incidents?

    I don't think you fully read or understood what I am saying. Draq queens aren't videotaping girls in the shower, South Carolina youth pastors are. Yet the groomer panic is fully affixed to drag shows, furries, and unisex bathrooms, with calls for stochastic terrorism leading to venues being shot up and city infrastructure being destroyed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Breitbart claims 'Boycott Target' is the No.1 song on Billboard's rap chart.

    Slight inconsistency with that,

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    It's not in the Top 40 list

    Or the top of Rap either

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    But Rap SALES

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    So yeah, very much like the claiming 'out piece of **** politician is on the NYT bestseller list' when the party just buys them in bulk.

    Just don't call it cancel culture! Right?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    School adopted a curriculum that doesn't exclude the LGBTQ, they had the audacity to recognize that Pride Month is Pride Month, like they have done for years, so the groomer panic message went out and the vigilante's answered the call, and started a huge brawl. The amount of police force response that has to be called to bear was utterly impressive.

    As for the curriculum, can anyone find the "danger?" Here it is:

    File: https://www.gusd.net//cms/lib/CA01000648/Centricity/Domain/55/GUSD%20Curriculum%20Fact%20Sheet_updated%2005-31-2023.pdf



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,262 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    In Ireland, as the far-left are actually in the Dail and Seanad, and implicitly supported by much of the media, they clearly have much more influence and power.

    In contrast, the so-called "far-right" seem unorganised, splintered, and don't have any TDs, senators or cllrs. They don't seem to have any media coverage, compared to for example the far-left RBB. Therefore, by definition, they have less influence and power.

    However, they get mentioned a a lot!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,810 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    Who are the far left TDs you speak of then?- I would perhaps consider People before profit and MEPS Daly and Wallace a bit extreme and perhaps far left but dont see them being supported in the media- they are generally the butt of jokes. Clearly they do not have influence and power as they are not propping up the government and would only take votes from the main opposition ,SF. SF and the Greens are just left wing, both parties becoming more conservative over the years since the days of their protests related to water charges/bin charges and Anti Eu campaigns.

    The far right dont have much traction as we are quite a young liberal country at the moment. Also the economy is going well so they dont have much to campaign on- sure the National party campaigned against Abortion- they are so dozy. FG and FF are to blame for far right groups being mentioned even though as you say they are insignificant- we dont have the population to support either AntiFa or Proud Boys type groups or any similar groups.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    You have to separate the issue from the violent thuggish minority. They are not the same thing.

    In this case, many parents have legitimate concerns about certain topics being introduced to children's education. There will always be a minority of people who take the violent and aggressive route, but they are a very tiny minority. The issue itself is a legitimate one for discussion and many parents are understandably concerned about certain subjects being introduced to school curricula.

    A friend of mine recently became a father and, when talking about these matters, he told me that he'd be uncomfortable and would have concerns over what may be taught to his daughter. He is very open, very tolerant, and supports gay rights. There's not a violent bone in his body, yet he too has these concerns. I myself would be concerned, and I'm not even straight.

    So you can point to the violent minority but the vast, vast majority of people who have concerns about this legitimate issue are non-violent and don't turn up to these protests.

    Put another way, pointing to the actions of aggressive thugs (who almost nobody supports) doesn't dismiss the legitimate concerns of the many.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Anecdotes, conjecture, bandwagon fallacy, and through all of it trying to legitimize the 'groomer panic'

    I pasted the file for the curriculum, why don't you and your pro gay dad friend talk about it together and tell me what if anything they find concerning about it, and what in there makes either of you uncomfortable? You have an opportunity to be specific here, using shared evidence.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Actually I tried to download the file but the link doesn't appear to work.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Conveniently for you then I also linked to the URL that webhosts the file. Is that 'broken' as well?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    The City of Leipzig is also currently under a night time curfew because of violent far left riots protesting the conviction of a woman for premeditated violence against far-right people!!

    Wasn't last night when I was there - either you're telling porkies or something happened in the last seven hours.

    I wonder where the threat to honesty and intelligent thinking is coming from...

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Nah, I've been in Germany too long to have to worry about that...

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Pretty much everything in the last few pages is anecdotal. "Here's a link of a very specifci incident that prooves and entire political persauasion is a worldwide threat!"

    Disarm the drag queens, I say.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Concerns, concerns, concerns - all these concerns... But can you actually put your hand up and LIST any of these concerns? You just said that yourself would be concerned - so I'm calling you out on it: why? What exactly are you concerned about? Specifically?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Ricky Gervais now saying he has to beef up personal security due to death threats he's receiving over the comedy material he covers about the LGBT community (and for what it's worth, I find his jokes humorous, and I'm a part of that community too).

    The comedian's team is carrying out a complete review of his protection ahead of his UK tour for Armageddon.

    It comes after he had a "ring of steel" in place at the Hollywood Bowl, with security searching the Los Angeles venue and being posted into the crowd.

    It is understood he has not been shown the threats but one included a reference to SuperNature, his Netflix special that some activists criticised as being anti-trans.

    "Ricky has been made aware threats have been made to his life. His offices haven't shown them to him, but have told him very disturbing letters have come in for him," a source told The Sun.

    I've said this before, but comedy is being destroyed by this attempt to prevent offensive jokes being made. Comedy used to be the place where edgy jokes and provocative statements were made, the ability to laugh at ourselves. Now Gervais and others are receiving death threats, and these threats must be taken seriously.

    Dave Chappelle, another popular comedian who often makes jokes about woke issues, was attacked on stage at the venue last year.

    The man who attacked Chapelle said he was "triggered" by the content of his jokes.

    Even if the threats were empty, this will continue to add to the chilling effect that many comedians feel about the kind of content they feel they are allowed to say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Hey welcome back, did you resolve your technical difficulties with that curriculum PDF or are you just going to blow it off and not bother, still pretending to have nebulous "concerns" about the curriculum? It's only 6 pages, can post the screenshots if it's really bamboozling you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    So: you were asked a very simple question about concerns you had and in response to a post you made, and you're reaction is to go quiet for four days and then post a completely different line if thinking in the hope that I wouldn't notice and wouldn't ask again.

    Wrong.

    What specific concerns do you have that you yourself mentioned here?


    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,398 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    I always did like James Acaster’s take on Ricky Gervais and other anti-trans comics.

    warning: NSFW Language




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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Ricky Gervais, like most comedians, targets all subjects - all the time.

    That's what make them comedians. It doesn't make them anti-anything.

    What speaks volumes is that Ricky Gervais continues to receive death threats - yet the criticism received goes to Gervais rather than the death threats Gervais has received.



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