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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Didn't take you long to nail your colours to the mast, did it? Another Russian propagandist. Out, out, out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,123 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Surely dormant accounts or those registered 12 years ago with low interaction, should just be deleted automatically after a certain period of time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,355 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    I don't think you understand, it is better to be dead than be the instrument of another.

    The ones that rule through fear depend on acquiescence. "Oh well we can't win anyway", "oh they are much too powerful". Firstly noone is as powerful in practice as their propaganda suggests, not Russia, china not even the us. So it is worth testing them. Secondly you have to hurt them even if you lose, otherwise they will be back to take more in a few years. So you see Ukraine has no choice, they must fight to the death or become the instrument of the enemy that persecutes them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,773 ✭✭✭macraignil


    You seem to be somewhat deficient in knowledge of what has happened to putins forces since they invaded Ukraine. They have had to retreat from large areas that they had initially tried to occupy and that was before much of the current equipment that the Ukraine armed forces have arrived. Saying Ukraine is still not able to resist is simply deluded and putins military forces have lost thousands of the sc*m bags they sent to Ukraine to criminally attack a sovereign nation in spite of having signed agreements to respect their internationally agreed borders. It is no surprise that you feel a narrative that is not glorifying russia and its repeated criminal behavior is not coming from russia as they are the only ones who seem willing to try to justify their behavior in Ukraine.

    The idea that it is a war of artillery is a moskovyte invention as that is where they have invested a large amount of their military capital but it has proved to be painfully slow to demolish even small urban areas like Bakhmut with artillery and without a competent assault force to move forward after artillery strikes it has taken the moskovytes almost a year to take most of one small town and more recently their artillery ammunition dumps are being taken out by the more advanced weapons being sent to Ukraine so it has been the moskovytys who have had to reduce their rate of artillery fire. The supporters of Ukraine have also been increasing their artillery ammunition production so I don't think they will run out.

    Missiles that can target russia have already been sent to Ukraine and I hope the military forces of the international community will send more to help Ukraine stop the moskovyte terrorists. I think putin will die soon when enough of his people realise he is the reason so many of their young men are getting turned into fertiliser for nothing in Ukraine.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,475 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    We all know its the Russians stirring this with their Serbians friends.


    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,475 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Looks like the date is set so to speak, or more speech to panic the Russians into more concentrated areas.


    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,564 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    123 posts of absolute garbage and lies. The mods took 2 weeks to fix the advert issue recently but there's been months of this putinbot nonsense coming through. I hope now that they move to end access for anyone spewing such falsities.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,036 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Short answer, Yes. Its just a question of time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,916 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    You are blatantly misrepresenting the article which even says:

    The first thing was the revelation of the atrocities, rapes, murders, massacres, looting, indiscriminate bombings and hundreds and thousands of other war crimes committed by Russian troops in the temporarily occupied Ukrainian territories…

    So even the article you linked says one of the main reasons for no deal is Russian conduct. Nothing to do with the UK.

    Nowhere does the article state that Ukraine was ready to sign a deal but didnt cos of the UK.

    Nowhere does the article say Ukraine thought Putin could be trusted to abide by the deal.

    So your claims of objectivity cannot be reconciled with your misrepresentation.

    And then the laughable attempt to play the discussion forum victim card when you were the one who refused to discuss the evidence as proven in the linked post from yesterday which you did not engage with but repeatee your false claim.

    There was no tangible peace deal scuppered by the UK.

    You have entirely failed to demonstrate otherwise and multiple times now demonstrate you cannot engage with the rebuttal evidence.

    You are spreading Russian disinformation.

    There were strong concerns within Zelensky’s closest entourage that the Kremlin wouldn’t stick to an agreement for any longer than it suited its interests. The risks of signing the Istanbul agreement were high for Ukraine: key provisions, to do with the status of Donbas and Crimea, couldn’t be agreed until a later meeting between the presidents of the two states. Zelensky and his negotiators’ most important worry about the Istanbul agreement was, Romaniuk said, that “Ukrainian society might not accept such a deal”... With Ukrainian officials and commentators speaking out against the deal at the time, Zelensky must have understood that he had no mandate for territorial concessions to Russia.

    https://internationalviewpoint.org/spip.php?article7852

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    I don't want to be harsh, but you can't say "I could be wrong but I've been right so far" and not point out where you've gone against the consensus and be correct.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,036 ✭✭✭jmreire


    No Ukraine didn't have a large NATO trained and equipped army when this all kicked off. Had they had even half of what they now have, Russian troops would still be on the Russian side of the border, and there would not have been any invasion. And if you think that a Russian army that was literally kicked out of Afghanistan by sandal clad Tribesman, is going to be able to take and hold Ukraine...you have another think coming.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,043 ✭✭✭Polar101


    It's only a "war of artillery" because the initial Russian invasion failed and resulted in the current stalemate. Which might change if Ukraine can launch a counter-attack, Russia hasn't displayed much when it comes to offensive capability for about a year now. But there's also the constant bombing of Ukrainian civilian targets (by Russian cruise missiles, drones).

    As for Putin doing anything about anything, he has set a lot of red lines and threatened everyone in the world, but it's just been hot air so far (with the obvious exception that he did invade Ukraine).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭Mr Disco


    Have the Leopard II panzers seen action yet?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,023 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Yep. A significant breakthrough could cause a snowball effect among war-fatigued and ill-supplied Russian troops. Likewise there could be localised collapses. It's not impossible that significant tracts of weaker troops could crumble, which could cause severe problems for the Russian military.

    Don't think of Russian defense like Germany 1945, with fanatical German soldiers fighting every inch to protect their motherland to the bitter end. These are (largely) badly trained troops, often poorly equipped, fighting for money in a foreign land against very determined defenders.

    Ukraine prevailing is the goal of every civilized country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,023 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    Another milestone today, Russia has lost over 2,000 tanks (and over 2350 infantry fighting vehicles)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 233 ✭✭IdHidden


    Well while the Russians are good at making children scream, they are no match for the Ukrainian tractors drivers.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭WheelieKing


    Huge escalation if Ukraine is now bringing the war to Moscow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,123 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Wouldn't surprise me if its a false flag operation. Months of drone attacks on Kiev and very few vidoes of the actual attacks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,552 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Not this time 😉

    An air attack on Moscow, well well.

    The populace will be outraged and no amount of spin on the Putin controlled media can contradict explosions in the air and the ground shaking.

    Putin's chickens just all came home to roost....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭rogber


    Minor damage to a couple of buildings is hardly "sow the wind, reap the whirlwind" payback. Much more than this would be needed. Also would not surprise me if it's a false flag operation to justify more terror in Ukraine



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,369 ✭✭✭Field east


    Having read this The word ‘ deflection’ comes to mind



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,369 ✭✭✭Field east


    And away we go again . If tactic ‘A ‘ does not work, then try tactic ‘B’ and so on



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,094 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    If there was ever something to bolster the Putin regime, it will be bombing civilian targets in Moscow. I can't see this helping relations with some of the more skittish Ukrainian allies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    I’m sure that Ukraine will just manage fine without the support of Hungary.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Seems like an odd false flag. Moscow itself getting hit makes Putin look weak. With internal arguments in Russia this does not seem to help Putin's powerbase unless he responds decisively and he does not seem to have the military capability left to do so. People in Moscow may support him but they also know the easiest way to stop the bombs falling is to get out of the Ukraine.


    The US has already said it is willing to look the other way if Ukraine attacks Russia itself so Ukraine is unlikely to lose much support.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,094 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    All these videos of drones hitting Russian apartments will be catnip for Putin and used as propaganda for a long time to come.



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