Time for a zero refugee policy? - Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24

Luxembourgo · 27-05-2023 06:23AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120644628#Comment_120644628

This should be a provision of any AS case, whether in progress or complete, break the law when not a citizen and it's deportation.

Luxembourgo · 27-05-2023 06:27AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120645862#Comment_120645862

And the point isn't to provide a long term viable option. It is to provide refuge.

Country shopping shouldn't be a thing

suvigirl · 27-05-2023 07:43AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120645235#Comment_120645235

Being born in Ireland doesn't make you Irish, not anymore.

Do you know how someone is an irish citizen? It seems like you don't.....

This man has lived in Ireland since he was 13/14, gone to school here, being part of the community, worked here, paid taxes here. His mother is Irish. And you still don't believe he has any rights to any opinions of matters happening in this country?

Honestly, that is racist.

jackboy · 27-05-2023 08:40AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120646055#Comment_120646055

You are misunderstanding the refugee industry. There are a small number of well connected individuals making vast profits from the refugee industry. There is no cost to politicians, the tax payers are covering it.

Annasopra · 27-05-2023 08:52AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120645177#Comment_120645177

It's funny really. Lots of ranting in this thread about the EU as a result of a statement from Dunja Mijatovic, who is Council of Europe Commissioner for Human Rights. She has nothing to do with EU. The Council of Europe is an entirely separate institution from the EU.

The EU said nothing.

jackboy · 27-05-2023 09:05AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120646233#Comment_120646233

Exactly, the EU said nothing about this extraordinary attack on one of its members.That speaks volumes.

enricoh · 27-05-2023 10:54AM

Big hit to music industry and tourism in general as fans n artists can't get affordable accommodation. Aw well, we'll all just go north for gigs, weekends away etc while destroying our tourism industry down here.

https://www.newstalk.com/news/hotel-shortages-causing-concert-attendance-shortages-1469120

hymenelectra · 27-05-2023 11:55AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120646055#Comment_120646055

You're halfway there.

Yes, this scheme is costing the state untold amounts of money, not counting the infrastructural cost, at zilch benefit to the country.

But that state money is being transformed into private money, it isn't just disappearing.

Corruption. Its plain and simple.

tesla_newbie · 27-05-2023 12:01PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120644258#Comment_120644258

Galway has more woolly liberal progressives than any other part of Ireland relative to its size, doubt you see much protest

Dr Turk Turkelton · 27-05-2023 12:15PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120646160#Comment_120646160

I lived in America for years, worked there and paid taxes, was part of the community etc and you're not going to believe this but every single American is racist as none of them called me American. They all called me Irish.

Also I was racist against myself as I always called myself Irish instead of American.

Damnit now I have to be a racist and the farm takes up most of the day and at night I like to have a cup of tea. I mightn't be able to devote meself full time to the auld racism.

grumpyperson · 27-05-2023 01:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120646660#Comment_120646660

Did you have a US passport?

Stephen_Maturin · 27-05-2023 01:55PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120646796#Comment_120646796

Joe O’Brien is the bodily manifestation of a soft well-meaning fool. Totally blind to the damage he’s doing to our country.

Strazdas · 27-05-2023 02:01PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120646126#Comment_120646126

But it's not like going on holiday or staying six months. If they make an asylum application, they know this will probably entail having to remain in that country for the next five to ten years. What if that supposedly 'safe' country discriminates against people making the application (religion, sexual orientation, ethnicity etc)?

Also, if we took this 'nearest safe place' thing to its logical conclusion, all refugees in Europe would claim asylum in south eastern Europe (Balkans, Greece, southern Italy etc) and virtually none in northern or western Europe). Those countries would be be completely and utterly overwhelmed within weeks of such an outcome.

rgossip30 · 27-05-2023 03:52PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120640055#Comment_120640055

I doubt your posts would really change anyone's opinions on refugee policy .

I.R.Y.E.D · 27-05-2023 04:01PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120646796#Comment_120646796

The majority of people aren't that mentally deficient or enough of a c:nt to vote for the ifp

Goldengirl · 27-05-2023 04:04PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120646319#Comment_120646319

Am sorry for your situation as it is truly disgraceful.

However the fact that refugees are being housed in warehouses and office blocks is absolutely nothing to do with the situation you and thousands of others renting and commuting find them selves in .

This is due to the combined inefficiency of our government and the encouragement of the private sector to capitalise on the lack and demand for housing, over several years now .

People keep voting these idiots back in .

The money is there to house refugees and is there to build social affordable housing , for a long time now , but hasn't been done .

Why ? Because FF/ FG / GP do not see this as an emergency and have only just registered it as a crisis.

Using refugees and asylum seekers who are a relatively recent phenomenon as scapegoats for the housing and rent crisis, is straight from the mouth of far right activists .

Not saying you are , but that is what it is .

Direct your anger at the right people and vote only for someone who will deal with these social issues .

creeper1 · 27-05-2023 04:07PM

Well that's a difference of opinion then because I'd say that the ones voting the main stream parties ( which are all on board with this) are mentally deficient.

But whatever. If you want this then have at it.

Good luck.

Goldengirl · 27-05-2023 04:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120646908#Comment_120646908

exactly. The Dublin Convention was put into place so that refugees could be accomodated across the countries that signed up and not just the southern countries of Europe .

It does not allow for " country shopping " though as people are returned to the original country they applied and were fingerprinted in unless they have family members in another signatory who want them to join them .

Thou · 27-05-2023 04:22PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120646892#Comment_120646892

He and the government are no fools, and are not blind to the damage that's being done, you can be sure of that.

JP Liz V1 · 27-05-2023 04:42PM

How has Denmark opted out or capped their limit but we a smaller country cannot, Paris has tented migrants no issue with that for EU council

Leo and Co., should grow a pair and start acting in the best interest of the country by stopping anymore coming, enough is enough, we have done more than enough, way beyond, send the chancers with no documents back out of the country

rgossip30 · 27-05-2023 05:13PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120641176#Comment_120641176

Any initial EU citizen engagement with government services does require ID .

pgj2015 · 27-05-2023 05:29PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120647176#Comment_120647176

Where as if Michael Martin sees your posts he will close the borders straight away because rgossip30 knows exactly how many refugees Ireland can take.

AnaB · 27-05-2023 06:02PM

Found a FB page "Ireland 2040 -Our Plan" and read a comments made 5 years ago😔!

Markus Antonius · 27-05-2023 06:10PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120644582#Comment_120644582

Welfare tourists...

Goldengirl · 27-05-2023 07:33PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120647249#Comment_120647249

Ah right.. I see you now., 🙄

' Oh dear , no houses rents so high, refugees taking houses..' . which is blatant nonsense as they go behind any Irish citizens on social housing waiting lists.

Perfectly reasonable suggestion.. Build social affordable houses to ease the housing crisis..' No, Irish people want the countryside.' !

I am talking about ZONED land .

Luxembourgo · 27-05-2023 07:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120647990#Comment_120647990

See this isn't true, they don't go behind irish people for social housing. Allocation is incredibly murky and lacks transparency.

Also numerous schemes etc, that refugees do take up "space" on. It's not a dig at them, but there are countless examples of non Irish getting houses. And I have mates on waiting lists many many years

Goldengirl · 27-05-2023 07:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120647271#Comment_120647271

They are housed eventually. But this is not the reason for the present housing crisis.

People need to be honest here.

This and other lack of services predates the arrival of large numbers of refugees.

Also the impact should have been gauged by the government and steps taken to ensure that numbers were limited once they knew they had no further accomodation.

There are alternatives politically other than voting farright.

Poitical parties have changed their spots before for less and will again.

The biggest threat to the government is a SF/ Left Coalition so in those parties' interests to get people onside now

After some unfavourable opinion polls would not be surprised to see a major shift in policy on this before Sumners' end.

Don't underestimate people power.

Goldengirl · 27-05-2023 07:49PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120648032#Comment_120648032

Of course need comes into it?

No offence but we can all tell stories about friends who are waiting years .

I know someone too but they only want to live in a certain area of a certain county and are single, so someone who has kids and doesn't care where they go except near a school will be housed first.

Its not policy though.

72sheep · 27-05-2023 08:05PM

Great to see we're continuing to handsomely reward overseas funds for housing/feeding the unchecked economic migrants that our govmt feverishly beckoned to our shores.

Mr. Gleeson won't last long if he keeps actually naming such funds like that. There's an Associate Editor over at IT towers who is now petrified for not having caught that one before it went out, LOL!!!!

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/social-affairs/2023/05/27/about-60-asylum-seekers-moved-into-santry-complex-overnight/

jackboy · 27-05-2023 08:08PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120648135#Comment_120648135

There may be some suggestions to do something before the election but I would not trust them. I suspect that the parties will just be happy not to discuss the topic in depth as they all have the same policies anyway, easier just to call anyone who mentions it far right. There will be no change in policy unless it comes from Europe. Europe lurching to the far right is vastly more likely than Ireland going that way. If that happens of course Ireland will do what we are told.

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Time for a zero refugee policy? - Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24