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Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

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  • Site Banned Posts: 12,922 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,218 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Ronald Reagan lives on.


    Not everyone is a fan of your pure free market.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,922 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,456 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    Yes and these people are welcome as they are coming legally and working.

    Or are you saying the people doing these jobs are people coming here illegally?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,168 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    The patronising rubbish is coming from various politicians - NOT the citizens



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 277 ✭✭Guildenstern


    I'd disagree with you on that point. Knowing Denmark and Sweden well, the turn around in both those countries has been quite startling over the last decade, but then so has their own doors policy. I wouldn't see Ireland much different, just 10/15 years behind. Look at it objectively, just not through what you'd prefer through a left wing prism. Those two polls should be a wake up call but I don't expect they have been.

    I'd really like to see another poll to show public opinion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,232 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    The boogeyman constructed by far right mythology

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,232 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,458 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Breaking into a building and staying there isn't a crime- bad day u don't learn something, thanks new poster!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 323 ✭✭sonar44



    Do you think you could articulate what specific parts of the article were of concern?

    It's just a discussion. Something more important is bound to come along.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭bokale


    'A recent Irish Times poll showed that a whopping 84% of respondents agreed that “there is a limit to the number of asylum seekers and refugees Ireland can cope with”.'

    Reads like a rant you would see in here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,805 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    How many refugees is too many for the country? Give us a number.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 92,210 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change this World



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,998 ✭✭✭mikemac2


    The Brits call it a sticky wicket

    Roderic O´Gorman has been left with the job that nobody wants. FG and FF and his own party hung him out to dry. No matter if he does an amazing or a terrible job he will get blamed and is a goner next election. I would consider less than 500 homeless out of 70,000 plus new arrivals as quite good actually but few will ever say that, only that an over 95% success rate is a catastrophe ☹️

    Most private sector workers do not expect 100% goals achieved in their jobs.

    How about a pat on the pat for the State and the citizens for a job well done? Over 95% is not a failure. Nope, many want to declare we are a failed State and NGO´s want to sue the State for failure to provide housing for all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,458 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    You don't know much about septic tanks do you?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,458 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    That lad from Brazil is becoming a bit of a minor celebrity, the D4 media must have him on speed dial at this stage.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,922 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    Trespass isn't a criminal offence. You're welcome, poster who was once a new poster.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,922 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    Like all the men who live in Ireland? Jaysis, they must live a sheltered life, hiding away from all men.

    Are they worried about unvetted women?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 92,210 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Fwme8kLWwAA7jQn.jpeg

    Those poor war torn Georgians fleeing to Ireland

    No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change this World



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,113 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I think our history as a former (oppressed) colony of Great Britain and with our story of forced emigration marks us out as a country that would not particularly lean towards current right wing politics or right wing populism. It would definitely be naïve to assume that a far right party could not gain traction at the next Irish general election of course, but that brand of politics and Irish political culture and society would not really be natural bedfellows. It's much easier to understand how Farage and UKIP became a force in England in the last 15 years - there has always been a large right wing and conservative aspect to their politics and media, even today. It (England) has essentially been a right wing country for the last 40 years or so - Blair's 'New Labour' were centrists at most.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 92,210 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Be honest would you be happy for a large group of men no matter the nationality living near an elderly relative especially female, there is numerous accounts of attacks worldwide by refugees migrants asylum seekers, Ireland has enough bag eggs, scum bags too but accepting more unvetted undocumented from gods knows where is scary, sorry but that is my view so I assume I'm getting attacked now for being a far right racist

    There is court cases done or pending, news reports and also vile disturbing videos

    Killarney for example a once safe tourist town has changed

    No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change this World



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭TooTired123


    Small estate of mostly aged 55+ and upwards women living on their own are told that a large group of young single men who won’t have jobs and don’t really have anything to do are going to be brought to live together in their midst.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,762 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    I think you know what I said and meant but you are being obtuse . Impossible to discuss anything with someone who twists like this. You do know the difference between Suella Bravermann and the UK policy and ours or you really need to go look it up .

    You are just trolling now .

    Good to see you post an opinion . That at least can be argued against instead of random links . The fact that most asylum seekers are in fact refugees has been shown to be the majority of those coming in to the country without a Visa.

    I would think seeing as you have been posting for years here you should know that.

    I really have posted nothing that disagrees with you , but in fact have posted similar . I am just saying it is against international law as it stands .

    I have children living and working in other countries.

    I and my oh have lived and worked in a good many countries before settling back home , in a time when nobody could afford houses either . This is not the first generation to have suffered and won't be the last . At least there is employment now which there wasn't when we left .

    I have relatives who were illegal in another state working away ..let's face it most people here had in the not so distant past ..but they could have been deported at any time , but weren't .

    Their faces and the colour of their skin has something to do with that if we are being honest .

    I would hate to think they were being vilified and attacked by people in those countries like these refugees are being , maybe not in person , but for sure in every other way here on this thread by some posters.

    I am for doing what we need to do within the law and letting our politicians know what we want them to do clearly .

    I am not in favour of treating any person with inhumanity or prejudice based on the colour of their skin or ethnic background .

    That doesn't mean I would not advocate for faster processing and paid deportation and when asylum applications are overruled or unacceptable .

    I am also advocating for more services and housing for everybody that needs them and our own first and feel the money is there to make this happen but doubt our government's will or ability given their performance over the last 10 years . I have said this a few times now but it has been ignored by posters with an agenda to stamp out any opinion that differs .

    I am also done with this discussion here if people keep piling on .

    I have found @BlueSkyDreams to be reasonable to see another opinion and agree that regular people who are concerned about large numbers of refugees need to distance themselves from the extreme views and actions of right wing activists , to be listened to and believed .

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,805 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    Economic migrants need to be stopped. Please let's help everyone in desperate need to get away from war and persicution but the rest of em can piss off.

    We are full.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭creeper1


    Lucas is the poster boy now for the media and politicians. Escaping the horrors of war in Brazil.

    Could they have got an Afghan at least? Maybe not as photogenic? Absolute Muppets the lot of them.

    The neck on the Lucas guy presenting as a refugee.

    I see in the article about the guy from the US claiming asylum the words "refugee" being put in inverted commas. Why not with Lucas.

    What an absolute farce.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,184 ✭✭✭eggy81


    You reckon they’ll be absolutely gagging for a load of 50 year old women?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭creeper1


    Agree 💯 percent. There should be a statue erected in O'Gorman's honour in Ukraine and Georgia. He's done a fantastic job of housing so many people in the middle of a housing crisis. I certainly rate him 5 stars. He's moved heaven and earth, made the impossible possible.

    50 sleeping rough is a tiny number in comparison to those who have been housed. There are also no woman and children among them.

    I doubt he'll ever receive any gratitude.

    Just look at Denmark providing for Syrians. The beneficiaries didn't want to accept it was temporary. Not an iota of gratitude offered at all.

    You cannot satisfy these people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 277 ✭✭Guildenstern


    Maybe so but after living many years in both Ireland and the UK, the similarities with culture and views amongst both populations makes me think Ireland will turn out similarly. Some way off yet.

    Only those here holding onto their cherished left wing idealism seem to think otherwise.

    Denmark and Sweden too were quite the eye openers. I would have had both to have much more of a socially liberal outlook than Ireland on this, but now look at them.

    Post edited by Guildenstern on


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,922 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    There are large numbers of men living in my mother's hometown. No I'm not a bit worried. Why is everyone afraid of men all of a sudden



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  • Site Banned Posts: 12,922 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    Economic migrants? What do you think that means?

    Do you want to stop every single non Irish person from living in Ireland?



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