What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

PropJoe10 · 18-05-2023 08:22PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120613700#Comment_120613700

The woman is a real poster-child for the Trump movement. Dumb and uneducated. Just comes out with soundbytes and quotes without even really understanding what she's saying. Bizarre.

Overheal · 18-05-2023 09:00PM

More skewering of the witness and additional uncovered conflicts of interest: he received financial donations from Republicans, including from within the Trump inner circle.

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/are-you-a-charitable-organization-democrat-grills-gop-whistleblower-over-receiving-donation-from-ex-trump-official/

“We established earlier credibility matters, certainly for witnesses who appear before us. Mr. Boyle, do you know who Kash Patel is?” Goldman, a former federal prosecutor, asked Boyle.

“I do,” Boyle answered.

“Have you received any money from Kash Patel or his organization?” Goldman asked.

“I have,” replied Boyle.

“When you previously met with the majority members and or majority staff of this committee, was Kash Patel present for that meeting?” Goldman asked.

“No,” Boyle replied.

“To your knowledge, has Kash Patel ever spoken to the committee members on your behalf?” Goldman pressed.

“Not that I know of,” Boyle replied.

“Not that you know of. Was anyone present for your previous meetings with committee members and staff on the majority that were not members of this committee or staff of this committee?” Goldman asked.

“My counsel,” Boyle replied.

“Your counsel? Anyone else?” Goldman asked.

“I don’t think so,” Boyle replied.

“Is Kash Patel helping you finance your counsel?” Goldman asked.

“Not that I’m aware of,” Boyle replied.

“Okay. And, Mr. Friend, what about you?” Goldman asked turning to the other witness. “Are you, do you know, Kash Patel as well?”

“Yes,” Friend replied.

“And did you receive any money from Kash Patel,” Goldman asked.

“Yes. He gave me a donation last November,” Friend replied.

“A donation?” Goldman asked.

“Yes,” Friend replied.

“Are you a charitable organization?” Goldman shot back.

“I was an unpaid, indefinitely suspended man trying to feed his family. And he’s reached out to me and said he wanted to give me a donation,” Friend replied.

“Did he have any… Was he present for any of your meetings with committee members or staff?” Goldman asked.

“No,” Friend replied.

Goldman continued to grill Friend about his connection to Patel and whether or not he requested documents and testimony he provided not be shared with Democrats on the committee – a common complaint the minority made against the GOP majority during the hearing.

Quin_Dub · 18-05-2023 10:12PM

There really are just really really bad at this aren't they?

The utter incompetence of everyone remotely associated with the modern GOP never ceases to amaze me.

18-05-2023 10:15PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120614491#Comment_120614491

Speaking objectively if possible, do you believe there is a competent Republican alternative to Trump for the next General Election?

TheIrishGrover · 18-05-2023 10:26PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120614491#Comment_120614491

Apparently believing that an attempted election-stealing sexual predator may not be a good person, and being concerned about a person with those morals being in a position of tremendous power is suffering from some sort of "derangement"..... They actually believe that. They have stated it here.

I'm going to say it right here: I believe that a self-avowed sexual predator with a history of election fraud may not be a good person..... I don't think that's an unreasonable belief. Does anyone believe this is unreasonable?

Overheal · 18-05-2023 10:27PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120614502#Comment_120614502

Asa Hutchinson, but I think his competence is off-putting to most MAGA voters.

Flaneur OBrien · 18-05-2023 10:32PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120614502#Comment_120614502

Romney or Cheney would come across as more palatable to swing voters than Trump.

(But it might not go down well with Trumpers!)

PropJoe10 · 18-05-2023 10:37PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120614502#Comment_120614502

Trump's base would never vote for a competent traditional Republican candidate. Their investment in Trump's lies means that they'll only vote for someone else when Trump dies. And maybe not even then.

TheIrishGrover · 18-05-2023 10:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120614580#Comment_120614580

They were waiting for JFK Jnr to come back and be his running mate..... JFK Jnr! What does that tell you about their mental state and "Maybe not even then "?

PropJoe10 · 18-05-2023 10:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120614630#Comment_120614630

Yeah I remember seeing a few people interviewed by Jordan Klepper that were convinced JFK Jnr. was still alive and would run with Trump in 2024. In fact, I'm fairly sure some people actually had Trump/Kennedy 2024 flags with them. It's like a serious mental illness that these people have. And it's hard to see how it can be fixed.

I.R.Y.E.D · 18-05-2023 11:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120614661#Comment_120614661

I worked in the past with people who had various addictions, I know a few doctors from back then and my cousin is working as a psychiatric nurse.

Until someone is willing to admit that they have an issue be it addiction or mental health and actively seek or accept the help being offered to them, any attempt by their families etc to get them to see reason is usually futile and can feel like you are banging your head against the wall.

That isn't to say that there aren't people who are just born c*nts as shown by trump, desantis and a good few of the gop, and they attract birds of a feather. This fact of course isn't one that just applies to the states, but we are talking about the states.

Overheal · 18-05-2023 11:41PM

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Those kind of people are very hard to reach, very cult like programming, everyone who disagrees with them is 'the far-left' etc.

Quin_Dub · 18-05-2023 11:57PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120614502#Comment_120614502

There might have been a few, but they have been pushed out and marginalized.

Others have mentioned them like Romney or Hutchinson or indeed someone like Kinzinger.

It's amazing to be saying it given the family legacy, but even Cheney would be infinitely more " normal" than what's there today.

I think Sununu shows signs of an ability to behave like a normal person as well.

But right now no one vaguely sane would get through the primaries due to the grip that the MAGA fringe have on the party.

banie01 · 19-05-2023 12:02AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120614842#Comment_120614842

Cheney in particular, up until probably the teaparty movement and the explosion of lunatic politicians it birthed. I would've but her and her father's cohort at the far right end of the GOP.

Now? Thanks to Trump, MTG and the rest of the MAGA GQPr's? The overton window has been dragged so far right that at 1st glance Cheney and Romney appear middle of the road🤷‍♀️

Overheal · 19-05-2023 12:03AM

Bill Barr, now out of office, seems to confess that Durham's appointment had less to do with following the law or seeking probable evidence of any crime, but with "telling a story" for MAGA politics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr0Lof9ncXg

In 2020, Barr said Durham’s “primary focus isn’t to prepare a report; he is to bring to justice people who were engaged in abuses if he can show that there were criminal violations.” But last year, Barr suddenly hailed the utility of getting “the story out.”

“I think he accomplished something far more important, which is he brought out the truth in two important areas,” Barr said.

As we wrote at the time: “We’ll have to wait to see whether Durham ever produces anything that could reasonably back up Barr’s hype. But Barr’s own comments suggest he himself isn’t terribly optimistic.”

Durham’s full story is now “out.” And much like the other special counsel’s report, it’s not what Barr suggested it would be.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/05/16/durham-report-bill-barr-spin/

Snake Plisken · 19-05-2023 12:52AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120613093#Comment_120613093

Hey why didn't Biden reverse Trump's Decisions like he did with executive orders? At least Trump would have done the withdrawal properly not like the shitshow Biden's withdrawal was!

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120613413#Comment_120613413

Glad that your a big fan of Timcast👍

Don Jnr was great last night

Overheal · 19-05-2023 01:00AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120614936#Comment_120614936

Timcast

Not familiar with them at all sorry.

Quin_Dub · 19-05-2023 09:25AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120614936#Comment_120614936

What evidence is there anywhere from anything that Trump has done in his entire life that "He would have done the withdrawal properly" ??

Give me a single example of where Trump planned something and then did it without massive massive drama?

everlast75 · 19-05-2023 09:33AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120614852#Comment_120614852

Barr couldn't even synopsise the Mueller report correctly.

He has **** all credibility and was a shill for Trump.

FFS - he made Sessions look like he had morals.

Burty330 · 19-05-2023 09:44AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120615348#Comment_120615348

Hypothetical scenarios are worse than reality now? There's no need to hypothesise. Biden is responsible for afghanistan not trump. Imagine if trump botched the withdrawal and blamed it on obama. Imagine the anger that would cause.

duploelabs · 19-05-2023 09:58AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120615421#Comment_120615421

Who negotiated the afgan pull out? Who did they negotiate with?

Quin_Dub · 19-05-2023 10:09AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120615421#Comment_120615421

You said "At least Trump would have done the withdrawal properly not like the shitshow Biden's withdrawal was!"

All I asked was how you felt that was possible given the complete lack of evidence that Trump is capable of doing anything without it turning into a complete disaster?

Trump had a large part in the "Shitshow" of the withdrawal due to the ridiculous deal that he made with the Taliban and his release of 5,000 Taliban fighters among the many other stupid things he did in the run up to

Tell me - How do you think that the GOP and their mouthpieces would have reacted if Biden had cancelled the withdrawal or even slowed it down and sent more troops back in to ensure a stable exit?

Do you think they'd have said " You know ,that's probably the best plan , need to be careful here"

OR

Would they have been screaming about how "Democrats are war-mongers!!!!!!" and spouting nonsense about how "Trump never started a war!!!!"

ancapailldorcha · 19-05-2023 10:29AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120615421#Comment_120615421

Exactly. There's no evidence. Biden was left with the trainwreck that the worst US president in living memory negotiated with the Taliban that let thousands of them go free.

everlast75 · 19-05-2023 10:31AM

This is brilliant.

You have Lindsey shouting (all sorts of nonsense) about how they will lose the next election unless they stay on message about the old classics, i.e. communism, crime etc.

Then hannity pipes up with the most bizarre words I think I've ever heard lol

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1659375513524224000?s=20

Wanderer78 · 19-05-2023 10:35AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120615348#Comment_120615348

...narcissists, do be lovin their drama!

everlast75 · 19-05-2023 01:25PM

🤡🤡🤡

https://twitter.com/ChrisRyan603/status/1659296578157309957?s=20

Quin_Dub · 19-05-2023 01:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120616290#Comment_120616290

They have learned absolutely nothing from 2016.

Christie hasn't a snowballs chance and all he does by running is split the "Not Trump" vote.

Whoever they choose , there needs to be only one person running against him, not a cast of a dozen low rank losers..

19-05-2023 01:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120616342#Comment_120616342

I can't help but think these presidential runs are excuses for some politicians to put themselves on the national stage, and rake in the cash off the back of it and into the future.

They know they can't win, yet continue on regardless. So there must be some, presumably financial, motive that thrusts them forward.

Quin_Dub · 19-05-2023 01:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120616357#Comment_120616357

There has to be cash in it for them , there really can't be any other reason for doing it.

Overheal · 19-05-2023 01:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120616357#Comment_120616357

That and many of them are simply preening for a VP spot. No hope of winning the head of the ticket but they each bring something to the tail of a ticket. Sarah palins identity as a woman (not that she primaried) reactionary to Obama not picking Hillary; Mike Prince’s no nonsense religious branding, a mitigation for voters concerned by the “two Corinthians” pussy grabber. Etc.; Biden himself was equally a wise choice for Obama, mitigating criticism that he was too inexperienced and quashing conspiracy theories about him being secretly a Muslim, here comes an Irish Catholic by his side. The VPs most important political role is to grab votes the head of ticket never would.

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