What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

MisterAnarchy · 16-05-2023 06:17PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120603089#Comment_120603089

There is nothing to see here Burty, Jake Tapper saying its devastating to the FBI and Trump is exonerated is a nothing burger.

ancapailldorcha · 16-05-2023 06:19PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120605173#Comment_120605173

Well, how about some evidence instead of a tweet dump from an online disinformation factory?

Overheal · 16-05-2023 06:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120605144#Comment_120605144

I expected exactly what transpired on the thread, the usual apologists/propagandists trying to deflect and bury a damaging damning report.

How is unburying the parts of things that your fly by tweets ignored, "burying?"

You've your own shovel, tell us what's so "damaging" in the report, like you ran off for a few days after being asked to evidence your naked assertions that the media was propaganda for Democrats?

Overheal · 16-05-2023 06:32PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120605173#Comment_120605173

Jake Tapper, who gets his income from the same esoteric minds that put on that disastrous town hall event last week?

Evidence to suggest he was ordered to say that, as his own analysis contradicts what he put on in your soundbyte to woo the MAGA crowd

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jake-tapper-claims-durham-report-devastating-despite-own-reporters-analysis

Tapper did not say Trump was exonerated. What?

everlast75 · 16-05-2023 06:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120605173#Comment_120605173

Lads, do you intend discussing matters with everyone else, or will it just be a back and forth between the two of ye?

Burty330 · 16-05-2023 07:25PM

https://twitter.com/TheCharlesDowns/status/1658473220394340354

Election interference, election meddling, election denial. When the democrats say these things they are looking in the mirror at themselves. And because this was an elaborate strategic scheme put into action over many years by the highest levels of law enforcement to undo an election, that makes it 100x worse than the brigands who got rowdy on Jan 6th

ancapailldorcha · 16-05-2023 08:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120605403#Comment_120605403

They killed people in that attempted insurrection and you're cynically exploiting their deaths so you can push more Trumpster drivel replete with a link dump and conspiracy rhetoric.

odyssey06 · 16-05-2023 08:19PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120605403#Comment_120605403

Rowdy brigands? Seems like you were watching the Pirates of Penzance not the news - because your post does not connect to the reality of January 6th or how Trump tried to subvert the election process in any way.

Fathom · 17-05-2023 12:01AM

There appears to be a very good chance that Trump will be criminally indicted sometime between 11 July and 1 September 2023: State of Georgia vs Donald J Trump.

The recorded telephone conversation between Trump and the re-elected Republican Georgia Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger, with several Republicans on the line as witnesses to this conversation, where Trump asks the Secretary to find an additional 11,780 Trump votes so that he can win Georgia will obviously be played before the jury. Wonders how Trump’s defense will handle this?

VinLieger · 17-05-2023 07:33AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120606424#Comment_120606424

36 year old divorced grandmother.... The party of family values

everlast75 · 17-05-2023 07:53AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120606527#Comment_120606527

Did you read this one before posting?

Hoop66 · 17-05-2023 07:55AM

Well, if a libertarian comedian says so...(yet another drive-by linkdump).

To claim that the Durham report says what you say it does requires either huge disingenuity, gullibility, or simply a failure to comprehend. Or, of course, the other reason.

Leroy42 · 17-05-2023 08:48AM

I am a little bit confused on this Durham report. Has it proven that something illegal was done? Seems to me that it raises questions but nothing concrete or actionable.

Wasn't this report completely arranged and funded by the GOP, or perhaps Trump himself? AFAIK it wasn't a bipartisan investigation.

everlast75 · 17-05-2023 09:10AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120606752#Comment_120606752

Indeed.

No predicate. Trump pressured Barr to open an investigation.

Durham also announced a preliminary finding at a time which was politically convenient.

ancapailldorcha · 17-05-2023 09:15AM

This looks like an excellent summary of the Durham report:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1658455372116393986.html

Burty330 · 17-05-2023 10:07AM

https://twitter.com/BarbMcQuade/status/1658455412536930304?cxt=HHwWgMCzwaWagoQuAAAA

The old Mark Twain quote its easier to fool someone than to convince them they've been fooled has never be truer.

Also "bipartisan investigation" is an oxymoron.

https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1658640121099431936?cxt=HHwWgMC9xd-Z1oQuAAAA

everlast75 · 17-05-2023 10:14AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120607109#Comment_120607109

I'm sorry - what are you trying to say?

Do you think Russia's preferred candidate wasn't Trump?

Where on p118 of the report does it say what that second tweet says?

MisterAnarchy · 17-05-2023 10:23AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120606853#Comment_120606853

No thanks, she isnt an objective person.

Sacked by Trump in 2017, an analyst for MSNBC since 2017 "In 2017, McQuade became a regular contributor to MSNBC, initially commenting primarily on purported scandals related to President Donald Trump"

Im sure she is going to be objective.

Quin_Dub · 17-05-2023 10:25AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120607109#Comment_120607109

Once again , a selective "interpretation" of a quote from the Durham report to make it sound like there was something illegal going on.

The full quote from page 118 says this.

On October 3, 2016, Special Agent-2, Acting Section Chief-I, and SIA Brian Auten traveled to Rome, Italy to meet with Handling Agent-I and Steele. During this meeting, the interviewers informed Steele, in sum, that the FBI might be willing to pay Steele in excess of $1,000,000 if he could provide corroborating evidence of the allegations contained in his reporting.

So - IF he could prove the details in his earlier report and provide corroboration , they might pay him for the information.

That is not anything remotely the same as "The FBI offered him a million dollars for dirt on Trump!!"

Selectively re-imagining information from the report to try and make it seem like they found something illegal when they absolutely failed to find anything serves absolutely no purpose other than to enrage people that are already in the bag for Trump.

Should you actually be bothered the full Durham report is available here , but given that you barely read the tweets you link to , I'm not holding out on you reading a several hundred page report.

ancapailldorcha · 17-05-2023 10:30AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120607192#Comment_120607192

Spare me. You've been dumping links from Trumpster cranks non-stop and now you expect me to believe that you care about objectivity?

MisterAnarchy · 17-05-2023 10:33AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120607221#Comment_120607221

Your post from yesterday "Well, how about some evidence instead of a tweet dump from an online disinformation factory?"

Pot calling the kettle black, anytime I post something thats the default argument, the source isnt objective.

ancapailldorcha · 17-05-2023 10:34AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120607233#Comment_120607233

You've been regularly dumping absolute twaddle here that you've not even bothered to read. What response are you expecting?

randd1 · 17-05-2023 10:43AM

It's amazing how devoted MAGA heads are devoted to the cult. Their minds are no longer their own. If a non-Trumpanzee said water is wet, they'd argue it's dry, simply because the other person is a non-Trumpanzee like themselves. They simply cannot accept fact or reason, and can't be debated as they simply parrot Trumpist blather.

David Koresh or Jim Jones couldn't have done a better job is taking over people's minds.

Let's hope Trump doesn't provide his acolytes with the same fate.

MisterAnarchy · 17-05-2023 10:53AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120607242#Comment_120607242

How do you know I havent read the things I have posted, I didnt realise mind reading had been perfected yet.

What response are you expecting ?

Exactly what I expected

ancapailldorcha · 17-05-2023 10:54AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120607328#Comment_120607328

It's been demonstrated clearly above when other posters have dismantled your dumps.

mcmoustache · 17-05-2023 11:02AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120605173#Comment_120605173

Jake Tapper? Really? Well, if Jake Tapper says something, I guess I should just believe it without question.

everlast75 · 17-05-2023 11:08AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120607192#Comment_120607192

Citing Tapper's opinion is perfectly fine. Opinions are just that. Objectivity is in play there.

However, McQuade posted a detail analysis and set out facts in the matter.

Regardless of who said it, you should be able to argue on the facts.

So, that being said, which facts do you disagree with?

Leroy42 · 17-05-2023 11:09AM

But the Durham report doesn't actually prove anything does it? Throughout the Mueller investigation, and after it, Trump supporters continually called the entire investigation biased, a claim that could certainly be made about this investigation, and then when the report was produced brushed it off as nobody was actually indicted directly from it.

Isn't that exactly the same in this report? So why is this report being given more credibility than Mueller?

Penn · 17-05-2023 11:19AM

The simple and inescapable fact is that; this was the investigation into the items raised in the report. The report is the findings of those investigations, and Durham found nothing to warrant further investigations or charges. Some procedural changes in the FBI to prevent same happening again.

Durham's report is based on the four-year investigation into all the claims raised about the Steele Dossier, Clinton campaign, FBI etc. And there was nothing found in the investigation which is likely to lead to further charges (I think one FBI agent was found guilty of manipulating/changing language in some intel or something like that).

There's no point taking snippets from the Durham Report to try and act like there should be an investigation or charges brought. The report is the result of those very investigations. The investigations have already happened. That's what the report is.

duploelabs · 17-05-2023 11:50AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120607328#Comment_120607328

How do we know? Because when you're presented with contradicting facts or points within that dump you obfuscate and distract rather than discuss those points. It's as if you don't read beyond the headlines nor understand what you're posting

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