Succession [HBO] Spoilers

De Bhál · 09-05-2023 04:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120573513#Comment_120573513

I was half expecting someone to go off the edge of that balcony last night. Especially after the fight between Tom and Shiv, I was thinking Tom is going to just jump off the building here.

That chat with greg and the norweigans was funny stuff, big beardy guy calling greg "the slim reaper" due to his ability to sack people.

That conference call for the sacking was gas too.

Arghus · 09-05-2023 04:48PM

I think Tom could still save himself. He's a self serving toady, but he isn't quite as fundamentally damaged as the rest of them: he still can have moments of self-awareness and realisation.

Kendall is clearly out to screw them all, especially after Roman threw him under the bus last week: "I love them, but I'm not in love with them."

Anyway, thought there was great stuff in the episode again: the incredibly bitter truths being told between Tom and Siobhan, the aggressive passive aggressive show-down between Kendall and Matson - "unbelievable numbers bro, literally unbelievable".

Pentecost · 09-05-2023 04:49PM

I'm expecting Kendall to be thinking he's won then someone outs him for his involvement in the waiter's death. There's no coming back from that regardless of whether he gets charged or not. I reckon it ends up that they all lose and one of the people they've treated like crap ends up on top. But maybe that's too unrealistic.

dublin49 · 09-05-2023 05:04PM

Gerry putting Roman in his place is always enjoyable,particularly most recently.

Cartman78 · 09-05-2023 06:05PM

Anyone think the "India numbers" thing might be a fabrication by Mattson & co.??

The PR woman gave that information up very quickly...

odyssey06 · 09-05-2023 06:06PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120575731#Comment_120575731

Its an interesting angle but to what purpose?

Cartman78 · 09-05-2023 06:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120575737#Comment_120575737

It depends whether Mattson is actually a fool or a genius I guess (which seems open to interpretation after that episode)

If he's a 4D chess playing genius.. then maybe he knew Kendall would walk into the trap and attempt a reverse Viking and presumably make Mattson even more super rich...🤷

Or maybe he's just a drug addled idiot who's failed upwards and hasn't a clue what he's doing 😂

Anyway, another fantastic episode imho....the scenes with Tom and Shiv were both devastating and electrifying

growleaves · 09-05-2023 06:21PM

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I don't think so because the perception of bogus numbers could hurt GoJo very badly and linger around it even if it weren't true. So unless I'm missing something that would not be a good basis for a ruse.

Possibly the PR woman just decided on the spot to sabotage Matsson since she was hardly 'taken in' by the barely-even-trying attempts of Ken and Roman to comfort her.

tesla_newbie · 09-05-2023 10:34PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120575731#Comment_120575731

Wouldn’t surprise me, Mattson is always three steps ahead

09-05-2023 11:06PM

Is Shiv ever going to tell Tom she's pregnant?? Is she still pregnant?

El Gato De Negocios · 10-05-2023 10:36AM

I think its all part of a massive ruse by Mattson.

It makes zero sense that he keeps Ebba around if his dodgy behaviour was actually real, I think its all lies. Imo he told Shiv to test her loyalty to him and assess whether she could be the face of Gojo US if the takeover goes through. Ebba telling the boyos straight off the bat about bogey subscriber numbers makes zero sense. Him admitting it to Shiv makes zero sense as it completely screws his position. He either wants to try and get out of the deal altogether or make it look like there is no buyer, tanking the stock price then he buys it significantly cheaper. Or perhaps he will join forces with the Pierce family with them taking a slice of Waystar and him getting the remainder. Its all too perfect for the Roys for it to be reality.

MfMan · 10-05-2023 01:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120575488#Comment_120575488

So is Gerry really sacked or was it rescinded?

dublin49 · 10-05-2023 01:11PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120578993#Comment_120578993

My impression was Roman frantically tried to row it back but Gerry has had enough and wants lots of Moola to stop revealing certain photos Roman might not want public.

rtron · 10-05-2023 08:29PM

Lots to take from it. When the power went to their heads they'd forgotten all the graves they had dug for themselves in the past.

elefant · 10-05-2023 09:11PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120578452#Comment_120578452

This sounds like an excellent shout. And it would be amazing TV.

AllForIt · 11-05-2023 09:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120578452#Comment_120578452

Or perhaps he will join forces with the Pierce family with them taking a slice of Waystar and him getting the remainder.

I thought back in the Nan Pierce episode she was playing them somehow. Maybe they've been in cahoots from the beginning.

Penn · 15-05-2023 02:06PM

Terrific episode. Really sets things up beautifully for the last two episodes and still impossible to know what way things are going to fall.

Sudden Valley · 15-05-2023 03:59PM

Shiv and Connor having another bad day, Kendall and Roman on top, doubtlessly it will change again next week. The episode felt sadly realistic

_Kaiser_ · 15-05-2023 08:20PM

Awesome episode!

Connor Roy - delusional till the end 😂

When it comes down to it though, Ken is too weak to make the big calls and Shiv can't be trusted and is too erratic anyway. Roman is the only choice I think. Dominated every scene and willing to make the decisions.

nachouser · 15-05-2023 09:13PM

I'm glad it's ending but I'd like to see a spin-off show with Tom and Greg behind bars, sharing a cell in a max security prison because of the cruises dumbf*ckery they got enmeshed in.

ILikeBoats · 15-05-2023 09:23PM

I don't get how they can just "call it"?

nc6000 · 15-05-2023 10:02PM

It becomes very difficult for them to change course and announce another winner once one has already been called like we saw in 2000.

billyhead · 15-05-2023 10:29PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120601322#Comment_120601322

Likewise. This hardly happens in reality?

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup · 15-05-2023 11:36PM

Most boring episode of this season anyway

shrewdness · 15-05-2023 11:46PM

You don't threaten Greg the Egg! He doesn't do coffee anymore

Also, the Con-heads will rise again

The Black Oil · 16-05-2023 08:04AM

HBO to sell merch of Matsson's pyjamas after the series ends.

Penn · 16-05-2023 08:27AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120602204#Comment_120602204

From the "Crrayyyyyyyy.... Z!" Collection

Vicxas · 16-05-2023 08:48AM

Every episode, EVERY episode i want to punch Greg. He serves no purpose.

SimpleDimple · 16-05-2023 09:15AM

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Pretty sure that’s how fox called Florida which put George W Bush in charge (or could have been his second term). There were a few months after when Al Gore was challenging the decision, but ultimately he gave up because he didn’t want the nation divided after 9/11. That’s my recollection anyway, 20 years ago…

Penn · 16-05-2023 09:29AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120602405#Comment_120602405

Exactly. It's kind of an amalgamation of what happened in 2000 as you described, and kind of a flip on 2020 where Fox was the first to call Arizona for Biden, which enraged Trump. Even though Fox was ultimately correct, they called it earlier than they should have which significantly affected Trump's claims that he was winning and upset a lot of their own audience. Here we see Kendall & Roman agree to call some states whose results are still in question because they need Mencken's help to block the GoJo deal, which gives Mencken the chance to claim he's won the election and announce himself as President-Elect.

Bonus fact about the 2000 election, Fox called Florida which put George W. Bush in the lead. The head of Fox News's Election Decision Desk? George W. Bush's first cousin, John Ellis.

It's why the title of this episode is "America Decides". Media and public perception has gotten to a level where America simply doesn't always decide.

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