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Russia - threadbanned users in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Before and after photos from the strike on Khmelnitsky ammunition depot .


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    FwLDCkiWYAE5ktM.jpeg




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,151 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Indeed, the largest nuclear plant in Europe, Zaporizhzhia, is under occupation in an active war-zone, it's a much more extreme risk than DU rounds.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Take any war reporting with a grain of salt. I’m not in a position to dispute if gamma radiation materialized after an explosion. I’m not there to measure the net radiation increase either. If it increased, it increased.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,641 ✭✭✭zv2


    I believe Russia is corrupt but this is ridiculous


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I dunno how I tie that to corruption per se.

    Poor bastards in WWII had to pick bullets and guns off each other just to shoot back right



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,634 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    That's the Russian propaganda in a nutshell. Makes ludicrous claims about DU shells being in the explosion and we're left discussing DU and background radiation rather than focusing on the initial claim.

    I've seen claims on twitter it was drones.... then a very dodgy Iskander missile video pops up with a claim it took out 2.2bil in NATO equipment etc...

    Same claims with Pavlograd and the train with 250 troops and multiple AA systems being blown up etc...

    When it just appears it was just an old soviet era rocket fuel storage site, very similar to Khmelnytskyi.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I don’t care if it did or it didn’t. I’m not trying to prove or disprove that. I’ll leave ye to that. My contention was over the insinuation that depleted uranium was as inert as background radiation, belying how dangerous is is to be anywhere around a battlefield where those have been getting shot off and disintegrated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Give it minute and you'll hear about pages and pages of leaks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    What's with the wrong hand bandaged up and what's going on with his face and around his eyes,

    Rapid weight loss too


    skynews-lukashenko-putin-ukraine_6001615.jpg




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,641 ✭✭✭zv2


    Well I guess corruption and impunity at the top filters throughout Russian society.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    While it's not unheard of in warzones to grab gear, magazines and so on off a dead or injured fighter, this is another level, looks like something you would see during junkie wars on O'Connell street,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,159 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    There's no way Prigozgin knowingly leaked the position of Russian soldiers to Ukraine. This is obviously **** stirring by Ukraine in an attempt to sow further division in Russia.

    Post edited by Francie Barrett on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Bakhmut apparently the Russians had collapsed on Saturday and now on Monday the Russians are still moving forward ,




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Lushashenko looking very Madame Tussauds all of a sudden





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,931 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Why am I imagining a «Weekend at Bernies» situation where they have him wearing shades and using a elaborate series of wires to fake his movement?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,404 ✭✭✭✭briany


    As I understood it, it's Wagner in the town, but it's increasingly been regular Russian military on the flanks, who've been pushed back somewhat due to localised Ukrainian offensive operations. And the impression being given out through Prigozhin's rants is that these different factions of what can be broadly called Russia's forces are not always the best of bedfellows.

    I'd be curious to know what the exact make up of the Wagner mercs pushing through the town is. If it's mostly grunts on the six month contract thing, then I'd hazard a guess that Prigozhin wants to try and take the whole town before any encirclement operation is completed, and he can go for broke on that if it's expendable men where the worst case is that it is they who get encircled while Prigozhin and his more experienced troops skedaddle.

    Prigozhin may not have the forces/resources or be given them to wage another assault on a frontline town of any significant size, so it may be Bakhmut or bust.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,404 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Untitled Image

    I can't do Photoshop, but imagine Medvedev on the left, Putin on the right and Luka in the middle.

    Edit: I missed @Rawr 's post above 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,175 ✭✭✭jmreire


    "Band of Brothers" NOT!!! But it was common knowledge, even in the beginning that Russians already on the front line ( or not even near it) preyed on the new comers to rob them of everything they had. It was in part a continuation of recruit hazing custom's (Dedovschina) where more experienced soldiers treated the newer ones abominably. Seems its still alive and well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,431 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    In fairness though I am a harsh critic of the Polish govt.here and the often self defeating antics and hostility toward the EU and to Germany in particular, I don't see them as a threat to neighbours. They are not quite that bad!

    (As well as their own needs) I think they wish to position themselves as a kind of indispensible military force in centre/core of Europe and the main "ally" of other smaller countries near them.

    So maybe some day there will be lots of Polish military + their equipment positioned helping defend the likes of Baltic states, Czechia, Romania etc. from Russia (the way the richer more militarily powerful Western European countries like Germany/France/UK are doing at the moment together with the US).

    That seems to fit with recent comments from the Polish govt. about their alliance with the US and how Poland in future will be "leading Europe". I think they mean when it comes to security and defence etc.

    Anyway it is an absolutely massive build up they are trying to do here, involving large % of their GDP. So maybe future economic growth will have to be strong to keep pace with it, could be a bit of a milstone around necks of future governments depending.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I've been to the wax museum in St. Augustine, I can at least say it doesn't look like a wax stand in.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,175 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Yes they did, but this guy was very much alive, if injured, and they had to fight with him to get the helmet off him. Wonder if he was in charge of them? And they didn't like him? Would be hard to blame him if he had shot both of them...they were obviously leaving him there to die. Or maybe the drone team, took another shot at them, purely because they were such inhuman barstewarss??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,876 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    It's most likely not a recent photo. I wonder why no one has suggested he has a double. Even if Wagner take the last 20 buildings under Ukrainan control in Bakhmut,its going to be a meaningless and short-lived victory when their flanks are being over run. Also no way did the head of Wagner co operate with the Ukranians, it's most likely a psych op by Ukranian intelligence to muddy the water and exploit the friction between Wagner and the Russian Mod



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,641 ✭✭✭zv2


    ...

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,843 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Just to point out the twitter author on this is pro Kremlin troglodyte

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,175 ✭✭✭jmreire


    ...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,404 ✭✭✭✭briany




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,693 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Claims now that the Ukrainian attack on bakhmut flanks was a de-blocking operation, to clear the supply roads north and south and allow the remaining Ukrainian garrison to retreat.

    Will become clear in a few days, if the Ukrainians keep their momentum and keep pushing north & south of bakhmut then we'll know its not the case.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,404 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Yes, it will be interesting to find out exactly what game Ukraine is playing regarding Bakhmut. Did they really spend eight months taking a stand over a small town out of simple principle, or was it part of a larger strategy, as has also been claimed? Ukraine have been playing it a fair bit cuter than Russia in this conflict, so I think it fairly unlikely that the Ukrainian operation at Bakhmut has no nuance to it, but how that plays into whatever larger strategy Ukraine has remains to be seen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,641 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,333 ✭✭✭amandstu


    That's a paywall. Are they going to have a higher GDP than UK in 2030?


    A lower per capita income but as higher wealth as a country?


    Let's hope they don't come to blows with Russia as I doubt Nato would back them unless Russia used nukes(which she would be entitled, if mad to do -if Poland moved over her territory. )



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