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The 2023 All Ireland Senior Football Championship (Sam Maguire Cup)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,735 MacDanger
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    Disastrous 2nd half from Laois after a decent start



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,411 dxhound2005
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    This is the second Tailteann. It's 14 of the 16 who were in it last year, plus Meath and Limerick. Sligo and Westmeath were in it last year. Last year it was a knockout format. This year it is the same league format at the Sam, with one exception. The worst third place team will not compete in the playoffs, but will be replaced by New York.

    All you need to know is the times and venues for your county's games, and go along and support them. If people are gaa heads that is what they will do. I expect it will die the same death as the All Ireland B Championship and Tommy Murphy Cup formats, and no amount of promotion is going to change that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,103 bucketybuck
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    But the context is that a lot of people were adamant that this wasn't just another Tommy Murphy cup, that it was good for the weaker counties, that predictions about it were wrong and that everybody would be well up for this new competition.

    Yet here we are, nobody gives a **** about it and the predictions were bang on.

    So a big shout out to all the people who told me that the Tailteann cup was actually a good thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 Always_Running
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    We needed the Tailteann Cup because it will stop on sided contests so we were told. Today Cavan beat Laois by 9, Down beat Waterford by 11 and Meath won by a margin of 11 points against Tipp. In reality every competition will have one sided games.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,372 theoneeyedman
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    'we need :the Tailteann Cup so rbTthwbig boys don't have to lier themselves to have to play the likes of Leitrim, Antrim, TIPP or Laois again... It'll eventually be that these teams cease to exist and the big boys can pick the best players off of them for themselves.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,770 Bass Reeves
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    What a load of crap. In every county and at national level in every competition with the exception of intercounty football you have tiered competition's

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,668 Fr Tod Umptious
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    As long as the Tailteann Cup is of importance to the competing teams and their supporters it can be deemed a success.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,103 bucketybuck
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    What a useless and patronising statement.

    "As long as one man and his dog enjoyed the game then it can be deemed a success."

    There is no importance without relevance, and since it is already clear that nobody gives a toss about the new Tommy Murphy cup then it is already unimportant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,668 Fr Tod Umptious
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    It's a secondary competition.

    All secondary competitions are the same, they are not as popular as the primary competition.

    No one should expect the general public or even the general GAA following public to get excited about a secondary competition the same way as they would a primary competition.

    That's the same for all sports.

    The Football League in England is not as popular as the Premier League.

    But it's important to the teams in that league and their fans, and that's enough for it to be relevant.

    It's the same with the Tailteann Cup.

    As long as the teams and their fans are interested in it it will be relevant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,507 gormdubhgorm
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    If the Tailteann Cup becomes 'traditional' then it has hope. For it to work the GAA need to give it 10,15,20 years so the rivalries develop etc.

    The poster below was being very disingenuous - Laois are on a spiral didn't they have an ancient Beano lining out for them for years? Cavan won division 3 in 2023.

    Is Down beating Waterford by 11 points surprise? Waterford are the poorest football county - div 4 2023 - with only London below them.

    Meath beating Tipp by 11 - again is that a surprise? Meath are a midtable div 2 team and Tipp are a lower div 3/top div 4 team.

    Also Tipp have seemed to lost interest in football since that great minor team from 2011. There seemed to be no willingness to push on, and any dual lads jumped ship.

    The way I see it the Tailteann cup is to give teams games. And more of a chance, where there is more hope. Put Kerry, Galway, Mayo against those lower end teams and you are talking - not 10 point margins but 20 plus. That is much worse, benefits no one.

    As the Tailteann Cup progress the games will get more tense, plus many of those counties are never in an asses roar of silverware in their provinces - winning anything for those counties would be massive - even the chance of winning something.

    I view the Tailteann Cup as the precursor to the days when the league will be the main competition - the Tailteann cup gives the traditionalists time to get used to it - and let it develop rivalries, among counties. As people get used to this 'new fangled' idea. Time will give it meaning and familiarity.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 Always_Running
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    disingenuous? My post is mainly directed at HQ figures including the current GAA president Larry McCarthy that they brought in or brought back this 2nd tier competition with the claim that mis-matches wouldn't be a thing. We have even more tiers in hurling and again plenty one sided games.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,735 MacDanger
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    Saw a photo from a friend of mine in Louth earlier this week, his son and all the kids in the school decked out in jerseys - they might well get hammered today but those kids will remember the build up for years



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,365 super_furry
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    Not a huge gambling man but Louth +9 at evens seems like great value to me. Dublin were so creaky against Kildare.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,036 thebullkf
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    I rarely comment but the consistently poor commentary/ Dublin bias is so ingrained.


    Blatent foul on Mc Carthy , and no quarter given.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,198 breezy1985
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    Would love a Louth goal now just to see the fans go nuts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,365 super_furry
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,198 PressRun
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    Louth struggling in the middle majorly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,543 Itssoeasy
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    Well…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,898 robbiezero
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    Louth giving the ball away too easy.

    Long kick outs killing them too.


    Dubs after a sloppy start are in their groove. Will coast from here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 Furze99
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    So much for the talking up of this game - the day that Dublin's stranglehold in the Leinster FC is supposedly challenged. Yawn.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,543 Itssoeasy
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    Louth need to change it up somehow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 Mr.Crinklewood
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 Always_Running
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    Main difference between this game and the Kildare game is Dessie Farrell showing a lot more respect to Louth and a lot less experimenting with his starting team.

    McCaffrey, Costello, Howard, Scully all in from the start today.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,030 Say Your Number
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    Thought Louth were supposed to be wearing a special black jersey.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,396 TheRiverman
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    Eamon Fitzmaurice who is a school Teacher pronouncing Louth as "Lout".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,088 conor05
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    Louth are still very much a weaker county. Very limited.

    Mickey Harte has got them into fantastic shape to compete but I think the Dubs will go to town in the second half.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,198 PressRun
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    Louth doing better on Cluxton's kickout than their own. Bizarre.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,650 Hammer Archer
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    As expected, Dublin coasting against Louth who were the best of a very bad bunch on that side of Leinster. Kildare may make inroads over the coming years with their U20s coming through. Had higher hopes for ourselves after our minor performances recently but that success doesn't seem to be translating into adulthood at the moment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,543 Itssoeasy
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    Shocking marking from Louth.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,898 robbiezero
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    Dubs probably going to win this comfortably but McCaffrey will be a huge loss if he doesnt get back.

    Kerry, Galway, Mayo etc wont be quaking in their boots watching this performance.



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