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2023 Gardening Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,773 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I planted a Winter Beauty clematis in the ground against a post on the north east side of the house and it has grown vigorously and was a lovely show of flowers for the past couple of months since Christmas, they are just dying off now. I have several other clematis in the same border, a pink montana is doing well but hasn't been big enough to produce flowers yet, they are only in 12 months. One particular honeysuckle is also doing very well and had lots of flower last summer, the others have not been in long enough to know yet, though seem to be happy. With the exception of Golden Showers which did reasonably well, the roses didn't do much.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,802 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Spuds due for delivery today from Fruithill - at this stage, I presume I should start chitting them immediately?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭Stephen_Maturin


    Was planning on putting a new polytunnell up on Saturday and planting sugarsnaps, radishes, lettuce and pak Choi in my outdoor planters…

    Should I put it all off until this cold spell and risk of snow has abated?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,923 ✭✭✭SouthWesterly


    If you're sowing straight into the soil, wait a week



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭SnowyMuckish




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,810 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Anyone with any experience with the Lidl seaweed fertilizer? I saw bags of for ϵ9.99 as we drove out yesterday. If it's actually rotted seaweed, 40 litres at that price seem like a good deal, that's a lot of wheelbarrows of seaweed hauled up from the beach in my experience.


    Haven't seen it before at our local Lidl and I watch their garden stuff pretty closely, so it might be new. Pink bag, same brand it seems as the rest of their compost varieties.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭Deub


    It seems too good to be true. Have you checked what are the “ingredients “?

    For instance, I see the Fast Grow Seaweed fertiliser is actually a blend of chicken manure and seaweed but I can’t find the ratio.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭SnowyMuckish


    Anyone have any experience of standard tree roses? I wonder if they’re hard to maintain. Decided to pull out a border and am thinking of new ideas for it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,404 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Used coffee grounds, what do you make of that as a fertilizer



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭wildwillow


    Used coffee grounds are good for as a fertilizer but you are better adding it to a compost heap rather than directly on the soil.

    I have used them in bulk as a mulch around trees and they do eventually break down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,802 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Anyone plant their spuds yet? Thinking of putting a few down this weekend



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭Stephen_Maturin


    Has anyone seen anywhere selling tomato seedlings?

    I’d propagated my own from last year’s seed but when I transplanted them into their own small pots they all died. This is the first time it’s ever happened - I tried John Innes “seedling compost” and found it to be crap. Very high in clay, far too heavy and caked up. The first and last time I’ll be using it - that’s what I get for springing for the expensive stuff!

    Anyway it’s probably too late for me to start a new set of them so wondering is there anywhere doing seedlings so I can make up my shortfall? Woodies had them this time last year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,923 ✭✭✭SouthWesterly


    Not too late to sow seeds. I sowed a second round last week and used a propagator.

    They are well up now.

    Growing marzano and moneymaker.

    Get some coir and mix if with compost. It will help retain moisture



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,773 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I saw tomato plants somewhere yesterday, I think it was Woodies.



  • Administrators Posts: 54,090 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    I've to feed my potted mini apple tree, is now the time to do it? It's starting to bud.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,923 ✭✭✭SouthWesterly




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,442 ✭✭✭blackbox


    They had a range of tomato plants in Lidl today. (I was buying rhododendrons).



  • Registered Users Posts: 11 Kiki1


    Hi Guys, was wondering if anyone would have any advice. Only got into gardening in late summer/autumn last year and went mad over the winter ordering Dahlia Tubers - a whole 36 of them 🙈😂 I received an order and went about snipping off the excess roots and broken tubers last night using a secateurs as I have been potting them up to get them started early. My problem is I didn't realize that nearly one of the first tubers I was snipping had gall and I went ahead and used the secateurs on all the other dahlia tubers also without disinfecting between each tuber - I've read up about this since and know that it's very contagious. Should I bin all the other dahlia tubers (11) I received in that order now? I know it can affect soil and other dahlias too 🙈 any advice is much appreciated! Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,773 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Clean your clippers and cut again just above where you cut before, clean up rubbish and keep clippers clean. You can bake compost in foil in the oven for half an hour (max) at 180 degrees C to sterilize it.

    Or, contact the place you got them, send a pic of the one with a gall and tell them what happened. Hopefully they will replace them (though of course there is every chance they will be infected too). Were the dahlias separate tubers or were they packed in threes etc? They could easily have infected each other before you took the snippers to them.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11 Kiki1


    Hi Looksee 😊 Thanks so much! I'll give that a go today! I'm terrified it's infected the other tubers!

    I have contacted the place I bought them off and they have offered to replace the tuber however the one which has gall is out of stock 🙈 Typical!

    They came individually packaged however the box arrived wet and so we're some of the packages the dahlias tubers were in. Would this have any affect with spreading gall? I did ask the place where I bought them from but they didn't really answer my question - they just said to pot them up and they might grow fine but that doesn't help when I want to put them down into flower beds!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,773 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I am far from being a dahlia expert, but I would dump the infected one - you will replace it eventually - and plant the others and hope for the best. If they come up affected remove and dump them. I have no idea about the wet, it seems a bit unlikely tbh. But I am guessing, I don't really know.

    I thought about Jayes fluid and checked it up to come up with this gem:

    Can Jeyes Fluid be used to sterilise the soil? Regrettably, as this product is now subject to Ministry regulations, we are unable at present, to confirm recommendations other than those printed on the latest can. Since EC Regulations in 2003, the product is no longer effective at sterilising soil.

    Lol, it stopped working in 2003. However if you dispose of an affected tuber a dose of jayes fluid on the place it was planted might be no harm. Since it claims to kill almost all bacteria its not something you would throw around indiscriminately, most bacteria are harmless to good.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11 Kiki1


    Have got onto the suppliers again so we'll see what they come back with. As I'm potting them up before they go out I might be able check the others before putting them in the ground to see if they have been affected. Thanks so much for the help 😊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭wildwillow


    I wouldn’t be using those suppliers again. Something as obvious as gall should have been noticed.when dispatching the plants. Were they imported or is it an Irish supplier. We are so careless of importing every kind of disease and bug.

    Keep an eye on the developing plants and discard any that show signs of haphazard growth. You have effectively quarantined them in the pots.

    I think you have been extremely unlucky, I’ve never come across dahlia gall in over forty years of growing them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭scarepanda


    Has anyone chanced putting tomato seedlings out into a glass house yet? Mine have been raised on a South facing windowsill over a rad. They are on a table beside the window since they got potted up, but are that little bit further away from the window and are starting to get leggy fast. Id like to get them out if I could but don't want to risk them dying on me. I don't have any power in the greenhouse yet so no heatmat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭wildwillow


    They’ll be fine in the greenhouse and will benefit from more light. Just be sure to cover them at night if the outside temperature falls below 4 degrees. It might be as well to cover for the first few nights to harden them off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭scarepanda


    Music to my ears! I was afraid it would be too cold for them at night even if covered. It's mad how quickly they grow!



  • Registered Users Posts: 805 ✭✭✭bored_newbie


    Any tips for planting tall flowers and keeping them upright?

    Delphinium, rudbeckia and gladioli…. I take it some kind of staking or structure is needed when planting out in the open? There’s a hedge about eight foot behind, and a mesh fence directly behind where they’ll be planted but they won’t be hugely sheltered.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,773 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    You can buys circular frames on legs to support a good few types of plants. I have just put one in place to support a Sedum Spectabilis that collapses every summer, I nearly left it too late. Some very tall plants might need individual canes to support them. The custom made frames are a bit expensive but look well. You could create a kind of loop of wire - fairly big to loosely enclose several stems - to the fence behind - don't fasten them too tight as they will look strangled and could break the stems.



  • Registered Users Posts: 805 ✭✭✭bored_newbie


    Cheers. We had a few circular wire frames, about 5ft tall that met at the top in a dome shape but they don't look great.

    We've another more expensive one that is like cast iron and it stakes into the ground and forms a circle about a foot off the ground, I'm not sure if its suitable. I gather these types of flowers get quite bushy at the base so maybe it would work to an extent. Maybe need to use it with individual canes as you say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,810 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    FWIW we plant our gladiolas near a wall that has roses growing over it. They stay straight enough. Personally don't like supports (except for vegetables) as it takes away from the view.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 805 ✭✭✭bored_newbie


    I do have a wall but they’d get no sun there unfortunately.

    The bank is nice and sunny and I’ve been wanting to plant rudbeckia there for some time.

    I could try being creative with the fence behind it but I’m not coming up with too many ideas really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭macraignil


    Rudbekia here does fine without any support but there are different varieties so maybe you have a taller growing one.

    Happy gardening!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭mojesius


    As the picture above shows, I'm attempting to grow a load of heather on this slope. The recent rain has semi buried a few in mini mudslides :(

    Is it worth digging them up and replanting when weather improves? Some are in since last autumn and others since last week (I got a bit carried away with trying to get stuff done over Easter break last week and didn't look at the forecast)

    Any other heather advice welcome. We have a huge sloped bank on three sides surrounding the house that I want to cover in different coloured heather. Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭Deub


    When do you plant courgettes outside? Is it too early now?

    I am trying to grow my own from seed but to hedge my bet I wanted to buy one so I don’t lose time. I went to 2 places but I couldn’t find any (only lettuce, cauliflower, cabbage available).



  • Registered Users Posts: 126 ✭✭InsideEdge


    I have my courgettes (grown from seed) in the greenhouse and will probably keep them there to ensure they get enough heat, courgettes also need regular watering. It might be too cold just at the moment to grow them outside - I've also grown them outside but didn't put them out until June to avoid any chance of a late frost! I'm surprised you haven't found any in the garden centres, as they normally start selling them at the same time as tomato and cucumber plants.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,167 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    we were in our usual garden centre (albeit on the may bank holiday, have never seen it as busy) and they'd loads of tomato plants but no courgettes.



  • Registered Users Posts: 126 ✭✭InsideEdge


    I must have a look at our garden centre at the weekend and see what's available - it could be still a bit early unless there was a run on courgette plants!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭Stephen_Maturin


    Similarly I’ve looked in several places and have only found lettuce, tomato, strawberry and various brassicae available - but no courgettes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭wildwillow


    Grow the courgettes from seed. They germinate quickly with a little heat and will grow fast enough if kept warm until established.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,167 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    just get certified courgette seed rather than harvesting them from courgettes you have spare.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,773 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I'd leave them be, I find heather temperamental but if they take they fly. Some of them will probably die, replace them. If you get more dying than living it may be that your site is not suitable for whatever reason. They tend not to do much in the first two seasons then really get going. I'd put some bark mulch on there. Its a fairly steep slope so it may slip but persevere, eventually it will stay where you put it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭mojesius


    Thanks @looksee. Yeah I'm leaving them be. Silly question (I'm a novice gardener) but how would the bark mulch help there? Would it not all gradually slide down the bank?

    It's a very steep bank. We have to get someone in to look at a corner in it as it's starting to crack so not planting anything near there until we get that sorted.

    Do you think it's worth planting more heather on a less steep side in autumn (currently bare and doing my head in with weeds) or should we wait a year to see if the current batch takes where it's planted? Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,773 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Its always difficult to tell how steep a slope is in a photograph, and I agree it might just slip down. I have wood chip on a sloping bed and it stays there fine, though I think it is not as steep as yours. Certainly the very top of the bank there is very steep. Why not try some in a strip and see how it goes, if it will stay in place it is excellent for improving the soil and helping to keep down weeds (it won't eliminate them, but it does help).

    By the autumn you should have a good idea whether the present lot are going to survive, even if they have not grown much, and you might get different results in a different bed, I'd say it would be worth a try.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,773 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Its worth mentioning that you should know what kind of soil you have. If it is acid you are good for (very generally speaking) summer flowering heather, if it tends more to alkaline then you will be ok for winter flowering but the summer flowering heathers are not likely to do much. Either way they like a lot of organic matter, which is why the wood chip helps, it rots down while helping keep down weeds and preserving moisture.

    You can get an idea of what kind of soil you have by the weeds that grow naturally, but its easy to be fooled by this - nettles and dandelions like acid soil but they will grow in other soils. A soil test will help, just remember to test original soil not any that has been brought in, and if it is recently ex-farm land it may have been limed. If you are living in uplands that grow foxgloves readily then you likely have acid soil.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,167 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    re the courgettes; my wife was in mr middleton today and was told they're having trouble sourcing courgette, chilli and squash plants this year, because of a cold start. loads of tomato plants available, though?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭wildwillow


    Loads of courgettes at a plant swap in Kildare yesterday.



  • Registered Users Posts: 126 ✭✭InsideEdge


    No courgettes in Newlands garden centre last Friday but there were lots of cucumbers!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭Deub


    I went to another garden centre and no courgettes to be seen. Hopefully, the seed I bought will come up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,810 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Weird thing about the courgettes. i just gave away 8 starts, had too many, kept 6. Should do fine bar the usual weather unpredicabilty, wiped me out late last may, fortunately could find some starts.


    And again, the Kuri squash I grew last year, which included some with solid yellow leaves, are started and actually doing better than the courgettes. But at least one looks like it'll have yellow leaves.


    FWIW, the yellow-leafed one I left alone, did fine. Plenty of large, delicious fruit. All these are from an original bought a few years ago from Supervalue. No idea about the sourcing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,802 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    I have a few carrots from last year still in the ground (I know, probably not good from a carrot fly point of view but I've neglected the garden a bit this year) which are starting to go to seed - is it worth letting them go to seed and try collecting it? Or just pull them now?



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