What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

except petty arguments like bussing migrants from not florida to not florida and the entire stupid saga of Disneygate you mean?

You didn’t really answer how you think he’d be any better than trump.

Pro trump jurors confirmed

and it was still a unanimous decision.

“Carroll’s lawyer insisted that the juror should be dismissed, having gotten his news from a “virulently extremist podcast,” while Trump’s lawyers argued that the juror should stay for being candid and honest.”

Losing the argument with Mickey Mouse!

The problem with the MAGA types is that there aren't enough of them to win even a rigged game like the presidency and as time goes on, the quality of candidates is somehow going to get even lower. Sure, Trump is an abysmal human being but he at least can attract crowds. DeSantis has none of that and making the supporters feel good is the whole point, not signing legislation or demonising the state's largest employer.

I know right its perfectly normal to have frequent guests that espouse pizzagate, antisemitism, qanon, stop the steal and antivax on a non extremist channel.

Of course he would, he was still being blackmailed for military aid as Russia were posturing to invade his country.

Anyway we have been through all this, he was impeached.

"Debate" involves decorum.

Biden hasn't done anything to bring us closer to nuclear conflict. Trump on the other hand legitimised fascists and tyrants all around the world and behaved obsequiously with regard to many of them including Putin and Xi. If you're highlighting his failure to cause WW3 as a success, I'm not sure what to say to be honest.

There are no rocks. The world is no closer to nuclear war than it was 3 years ago.

The easiest way for the war to end is for the Russian army to go to Russia. However Trump seems unlikely to have that power and therefore the war will not end with Trump in power. All any Trump deal will do is encourage the Russians to rearm and invade whatever remains of the Ukraine or Georgia.

Plus Trump came off badly in every 1 on 1 meeting he had. From backtracking meekly from comments about Theresa May, having the EU explained to him like he was a child, love letters to Kim or Putin securing exclusive chats without any records on the US side.

"Dump" being the operative word...

The claim that Biden is down in approval rating is the claim I made- that’s public knowledge anyway I couldn’t be arsed debating that at this stage- it’s clear you and others are only interested in an echo chamber

That's funny because blackmailing Zelensky was one of many of the impetuses for the invasion of Ukraine, ie. the overwhelming propaganda from Kremlin that the Ukrainian government was irredeemably corrupt.

He also refused to condemn the invasion of crimea as a candidate and sought to recognize it as Russian territory. The emboldened Russia further, clearly.

During his presidency he had his own 'shadow administration' (ie. his team of personal lawyers) engage in Ukraine with previously deposed and provably corrupt russian sympathizing political officers to the benefit of Russia. Shortly after meeting them those former officers engage in partisan op eds in the hill nakedly accusing the then Ukrainian government of election interference in 2016 linking the embassy in Kiev to the DNC. While this campaign of undermining the ccredibility and stability of the Ukrainian state was going on, Trump ordered military aid approved by congress to be suspended indefinitely, and at least a week later he has the infamous shakedown call with zelensky, asking him for the same type of political assistance he had Giuliani apparently advising Lutsenko to accuse the DNC/Ukrainian government of doing.

And we haven't even discussed the abandoning of the Kurds (led to more war and bloodshed) this only helped perpetuate a war that has now lasted 12 years. He called that "strategically brilliant"

He also unilaterally negotiated with the Taliban through his subordinate Mike Pompeo, signing an agreement with a literal terrorist organization, an agreement that was not co-signed or consulted on by the lawful Afghanistan government, which unconditionally released at least 5,000 taliban terrorists back on to the battlefield, while at roughly the same time drawing us down to just 2,500 troops in theater and creating a situation with such chaos and glee that the country has backslid into a taliban controlled state. He was very proud of the fact that Afghanistan was careening down that road:

Nevermind that he completely scrubbed a nuclear proliferation agreement with Iran because he was simply mad that Obama could take credit for it IG, and lo and behold, Iran is proliferating weapons again (ie. bringing us closer to nuclear war). Trump engaged in new conflict by assassinating at least one of it's military leaders by drone strike as well. And quite flauntingly I have to say - whereas the GWB/Obama administrations still haven't acknowledged stuxnet was a US operation IIRC.

Oh - he also, domestically, incited if not coordinated and planned a seditious and violent effort to overthrow our democracy, actively stage-set by Trump's election denialism and refusal to participate in the peaceful transition of power. Leading at least a few people to worry about, the hanging of vice presidents and such.

All sorts of conflicts did happen under Trump, and he was proud of them on more than one occasion - where were you?