No quitten we're whelan on to chitchat 11

I worked for years in 3D design. Must have designed thousands of parts. Some could have 5 revisions of the same part. When you are at that level, a proper controlled drawing updated right prevents a lot of hassle down the road. I've seen hand sketched drawings for old parts. They work fine once they are controlled right within the overall system. Purchasing must be updated on all revisions and the purchase order should have the revision number listed.

For a simple part it seems over the top, but believe me, when a lot of expensive parts come in and they are wrong, the first thing they look at is the PO and then the drawing.

There'll be no problem with that drawing

It's just remembers the bulls tag number for the duration of your online filling out, just saves you writing all the numbers each time. Nothing to be worried about.

Fertiliser sales must be through the floor. Another article telling ye to buy some so there's fodder next winter

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/fai-what-is-the-fodder-outlook-on-your-farm/

Can't argue with the fodder situation thinking around this area.

Spare silage has been used up and fertilising for this year's crop has been delayed.

Time to buckle up, weather permitting.

Does anyone know where I can find the current icbf star rankings cut off, want to know what euro value is the cut off for 4 star, 3 star etc.

Good man Patsy.

I see the tillage lobby in Ireland have beans and lupins (protein crops) not classed as tillage anymore to prove the tillage area is down in area to get what they wanted. They wanted a payment to lease land. The big bad narrative was the countries dairy farmers were taking all the land. Anyone in this part of the country sees more tillage. Latest epa figures on tillage area didn't even support their case. So the few in the lobby with ifj ran their own census. Biased of course and between late plantings and now protein crops excluded they've gotten the figures are back. So they've drilled the minister to give tax breaks to land owners who will only rent for tillage. Livestock on land excluded. I presume they've now gotten protein crops excluded as it's not tillage anymore either?

There's really some shower of See you next Tuesday's in this country in the lobby and they're doing everything they can to demonise and disadvantage other farming sectors with their paw out to the minister constantly. Poor feckers are living hand to mouth with thousands of acres.

Even see before a seed and fert rep whose also tillage on home farm say new aid should only go to established tillage farmers and not new entrants to the sector. Really the greedist See you next Tuesday's going.

For what? Beer, whisky and animal feed. The sooner the animal keepers wean their farms off cereals the better. Leave them with their Beer and whisky. And regenerative ads from the multinational Guinness with no regenerative about it. No Livestock as were the aims of the regenerative movement. That only leaves the use of glyphosate every year on the same ground and the greenwashing now that it's regenerating the ground through the antibiotic that is gly. But sure we're all happy campers now and saving the planet.

The BS continues unchecked.

Tillage entitlements were never high per hectare, I used to have tillage in the 1990s and they were the lowest per ha payment on my farm. Converging won't affect tllage per Ha payment much, It's just the pure numbers of Ha's that's huge. There's some whinge from dairy farmers now and not a word outa them last year. High prices cure high prices and milk price went too high.

The food staples, ie , milk, butter and bread are ripping people off at the moment and there's huge whingeing from the consumers too.

It's every one for themselves now

Money was scarce and hard gotten up until the '70s, it's a different story now alright.

I wasn't trying to argue the source of affordable food, more making the point that farmers are also consumers of said food.

Long long gone are the days of self sufficient farmers where the wife makes butter and fattens a pig for the table etc.

Every farmers wife shops in Tesco or whatever supermarket is in town and is no different to any average "consumer".

In fairness.

Primary schools seem to be more hands on now in teaching students how to grow veg. I see more polytunnels at schools than there ever were.

The farmer produces more food than they consume. That's the difference.

Milk and beef is food. Why would you want to keep the value of your produce low so that the weekly shop will be a bit cheaper.