General Premier League Thread 2022-23 - mod note in OP 12/03/23

On Sky this morning, Stephen Warnock had a great idea - play the audio. That should clear it up.

Its clear that Klopp has issues with Tierney, ever since Harry Kane was allowed put his studs through Robertson and not get sent off.

He saw Skipp almost replicate that on Diaz yesterday as well to add fuel to the fire. It gets put to bed by either a suspension or an apology and on we go.

Re the Richardson "penalty" - if that's a spotter then we are having penalties awarded every time there is a corner taken, because compared to what goes on in the box for corners, he was "barely" touched. I would be all for a month of 6-10 penalties every game just to get rid of that s**t, by the way.

I love that its the referees fault that Klopp behaved childishly. Whether the audio is released or not he should serve a ban for behaving the way he did. And if the audio proves that Klopp was lying about what the referee allegedly said to him then he should get a further ban. Managers behaving that way should be totally unacceptable

I agree 100%

btw - What would your opinion be if Tierney has said something provocative?

They said as much on Sky this morning. Managers can't get to legislate who refs where.

He has been in charge of a few games where hes made dreadful decisions that have massively impacted Liverpool games - particularly the 2-2 draw at Spurs last season, where he didn’t send off Harry Kane for a stonewall red card challenge but sent Robertson off for something very similar, and also denied Liverpool a stonewall penalty. I think he was in charge(he might have been on VAR) when Everton were denied a late penalty against Manchester City.

Klopp clearly feels that there’s a bias there but he should get a ban for his reaction to the 4th official, can’t be doing that. I don’t see an issue complaining about the referee, though, every manager does that at some point or another.

And while managers shouldn’t be able to dictate who refs them, they should be able to put in a complaint if they can show that they get a disproportionate amount of decisions incorrectly against them with one referee. Shouldn’t just have to put up with a ref that hates them if that’s really what’s happening.

No, I don’t think so, it’s not a case of PGMOL being out to get Liverpool or anything, just frustration from Klopp that there has been a few pretty blatant errors when he’s been involved, with no acknowledgement from PGMOL either.

We’ve seen Everton and Brighton apologised to for refereeing errors and Mason got the sack for an error in an Arsenal game. Tierney makes a few blatant bad calls and nothing. I reckon had they at least acknowledged that there were mistakes made in that Spurs game it would have been easier for Klopp &Tierney to move on from it.

The Robertson situation was handled perfectly, though. Nobody was banned(regardless of all the faux outrage) the ref and Robertson sat down over a video chat and the ref explained that the movement was a mistake and apologised, which Robertson accepted. All very sensible.

I think a good compromise would be Liverpool and the PGMOL to release a joint statement saying they will be sitting down and discussing any issues Klopp has towards Tierney and vice versa. It's not ideal but it's preferable IMO to it appearing that Klopp gets to choose who referees the games

Did Fergie, Wenger and Mourhino not used to call out all the awful refereeing decisions against their teams as well?

The standard of decisions have gotten worse since then as well so it's not surprising that managers continue to complain about awful decisions impacting their teams results.

Yes, of course he should.

Why should they release the audio, it's not standard procedure to release it. Review it internally and made a decision/statement on it.

Exactly. Anyhow the audio has nothing to do with it.

The incident that should be looked at is klopps treatment of the 4th official.

Klopp is a only trying to take attention away from his behaviour and possibly the head kick by Jota.

I'm not saying there is a direct bias, I'm saying that there is a long history of a Tierney making bad decisions in Liverpool games.

There is clearly an issue between Tierney & Klopp, there has been words before between the 2 of them after games, and different other small things. Tierney told Klopp "to get over it" after one lockdown game when Klopp thought Tierney had made bad decisions and then after another game, Klopp said he doesn't have a problem with referees, only Tierney.

They've clearly had words after this game again, and one of them is lying about it. Klopp in post match comments, or Tierney (through the PGMOL) in which they said it never happened.

Why do the PGMOL keep choosing him to referee Liverpool games at a much higher rate than they do to any other team? Almost double. They are putting themselves in a difficult position by doing this. The long history of bad decisions grows and grows and adds to the tension and leads to further boiling points, especially when they come at incidents towards the end of the game and affect things like equalizing goals and last minute winners.

C'mon Leicester