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Media silence over Niall Collins story

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 371 ✭✭lizzyjane


    The best journalists are volatile people, they aren't afraid to question government policy or expose elected representatives for their immoral actions or corrupt nature. Their fearless in their pursuit for the truth even if it means getting the mud slinged at them by the establishment and some of their little minions in the mainstream media.


    Even Michael Martin hinted that the Russians are somehow involved, extraordinary thing to say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭GerUpOttaTa


    And unfortunately Ireland is bereft of those kind of journalists. It's a small closed shop of lads on the gravy train merry go round asking politicians the same soft ball questions. Martin's reaction to the story and the attempt to smear The Ditch is an attempt to regain the narrative and create fear.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 371 ✭✭lizzyjane


    The media silence on the story for the best part of a week told us all we need to know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 277 ✭✭Guildenstern


    Martin's deflection to turn it into an attack on The Ditch while laughable has sinister undertones. All they've done is highlight a number of public representatives who haven't declared their interest mostly in property assets, others who appear to have secured planning permissions by at the least being very economical with the truth, and in this instance, raise enough questions over a property acquisition.

    People should wake up, and I really do think that finally people are beginning to do so, that a large element of the media, don't really work to the best interest of the common good.

    If we can't blame SF, we'll just throw in the Russians. FFS. Predictably, no outrage from our esteemed media on that comment either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,892 ✭✭✭the kelt


    Well the Director of Ditch Media consistently goes on Russia Today choosing to be introduced as "Director of Ditch Media" so hardly out there or anything!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭Sono Topolino


    @kaymin Paul Murphy is making a complaint to SIPO, so we will find out which of us is right soon enough: https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2023/04/28/paul-murphy-confirms-he-will-make-sipo-complaint-about-niall-collins/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 371 ✭✭lizzyjane


    Its just another way of deflecting the story. Play the ball not the man.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 32,768 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    He told RTÉ Radio’s Morning Ireland “I think the case is extremely clear.”

    Well I agree with Paul Murphy there...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,943 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    The same SIPO that have been begging for reform, more resources and more authority for many many years...give me a break.

    I ask again, why have FG stalled the Public Sector Standards Bill 2015 for over 8 years now? It contained many Mahon Tribunal recommendations.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,892 ✭✭✭the kelt


    How is it deflecting the reply to your comment?

    "Even Michael Martin hinted that the Russians are somehow involved, extraordinary thing to say."

    So again i ask how is it extraordinary for hinting about Russia when the director of Ditch media is consistently on Russia Today identifying as such?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 371 ✭✭lizzyjane


    I am talking about Michael Martin playing the man not the ball.


    He is implying the Russian state are somehow funding or giving information to the Ditch which is borderline tinfoil hat stuff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭Sono Topolino


    Chay Bowes resigned as a director of Ditch Media Limited on March 6th 2023 FYI. Are you referring to someone else?

    Post edited by Sono Topolino on


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,803 ✭✭✭hometruths


    If he resigned on May 6th 2023 his resignation letter sounds like one of Collins' planning applications.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,020 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    What did Collins do wrong?

    His wife bought property on the open market?

    Please tell me



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,892 ✭✭✭the kelt


    Didnt actually, thanks for that, thought i read he was still a shareholder, yeah thats who i was referring to. Seen though he has sold his share to Paddy Cosgraves solicitor. Point still stands though, he consisntently was on Russia Today labelling himself as Director of Ditch media so hardly extraordinary that its gives the likes of Micheal Martin an opportunity to bring up Russia

    We do need some proper independent led journalism with nothing lurking behind the scenes, in this case grifters like Cosgrave etc, in this country.



  • Posts: 2,752 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Russia Today correspondent Chay Bowes is no longer a director of The Ditch. Did someone else take up the role???



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,892 ✭✭✭the kelt


    I actually thought there was something to this story until it was revealed that the property was on the open market for at least 6 months, the way it was being put out there it was like she bought it a week after it was agreed to sell it.

    Unless of course thats not the case?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,866 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    Because Putin has ZERO interest in county council politics in Limerick.

    It was amateur hour by Martin, grabbing at straws.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,866 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    I’m pretty confident most mentions of Russia Today is from people who’ve never heard of the Keiser Report for example.

    They just hear the word Russia, and their western media grool filled minds click into gear.

    USA good guys.

    Russians bad guys.

    Simple minds.



  • Posts: 2,752 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Max Keiser? That creepy guy who is hanging out in El Salvador trying to promote Bitcoin? I see he was also a speaker at Web Summit….



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭Sono Topolino


    The Ditch is clearly Paddy Cosgrave's vendetta project, which Bowes was more than happy to help out with for a price. Him later joining RT can simply be explained as him finding another vendetta project (Russia against the West) that pays better. I'm sure broadcasting his shower thoughts on live TV also gives his ego a nice boost. I see no hard proof that The Ditch is linked to Russia, besides both it and RT attracting jaded individuals who feel that the establishment has let them down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 476 ✭✭bluedex


    Are the Permanently Outraged still banging on about this non-corruption?

    Must be nothing else to get OUTRAGED about at the moment...

    Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 277 ✭✭Guildenstern


    NUJ now giving Martin a bit of a kicking.

    Dáil privilege can be used by any member to basically confirm something that aids their argument. It gets them some column inches of course. Sometimes it will backfire. Was this abuse of such a privilege?

    Will any of the other media organs give this much prominence? You would hope so, but then the news cycle moves on.

    Personally, it's hard to take the FF leader seriously. This only re-confirms my view of him, as he lays bare his disgust at what, investigative journalism?

    Was he briefed by his advisors to go on this rant or was it a solo run, and he just lost the run of himself?



  • Posts: 2,752 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Paul Murphy rowing in behind The Ditch might come back to haunt him. He is going to lose his seat at the next election, but he’s making some strange bed fellows these days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 476 ✭✭bluedex


    Question: do the Permanently Outraged not have any real lives where they can do fun and interesting things?

    I'm not referring to career politicians, where Permanent Outrage is part of the job spec.

    Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.



  • Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭ Briana Fierce Trainee


    Imagine the servers-full of saucy gossip that Putin has on Martin & Co and he woke up one morning and decided -

    "Da, lets hit zem with zat nobody junior minister's planning application while he was a county counzillor nearly dva decades ago. cпасибо, comrade."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,427 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Why would this come back to haunt him? If what the Ditch have published is the truth then what is the problem? Have the government not to be held to account? Would you be saying this if this was the other way around and it was a SF TD or PBP TD that was exposed like Collins, English and Troy have been ?

    Is that there is to be no other media in this state other than RTE, Newstalk, the times and the independent? is that it?



  • Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭ Chaya Deafening Dirt


    This is interesting. Was Bowes an RT correspondent too?

    Seems he is, with RT India. Do people really want to trust this guy's motives?




  • Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Took a peek at that guys Twitter (God forgive me)

    Big fan of Ticker Carlson and the glory of the Russian army. Hates Zelensky and the EU.

    Putin is on record boasting of having many agent provocateurs in the west. He feeds off the Brexits and the Trumps and the politics of personality and hatred. Has lots of help in every country. It's cheap and a divided enemy is a weak one.



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  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,803 ✭✭✭hometruths


    I'd say Putin, canny operator that he is, has been sitting on the minutes of the Bruff Local area committee meeting for some time, just waiting for the optimum time to release it.

    Why do you think he chose now? Could it be related to Biden announcing he is going to run in 2024, or perhaps there is a Ukraine angle I am missing?

    Geopolitics eh? Mad stuff altogether.



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