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The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,111 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Because no team can get Mahomes. So his price is not relevant. Burrow will be the highest paid qb very soon, would you rather the Bengals let him walk? They don't have the option of getting Mahomes at the Mahomes price. Same reason teams still paid QBs even when Brady was on less.


    I think some teams would be smart to try and get a 10 year deal like Mahomes has but not sure if that is realistic in every case.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,934 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Once a team pays more it's over but it should never have happened in the first place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,934 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Texans take Stroud at 2 then trade up to 3 for Anderson. Anderson is going to be a great player.

    It's hard to know about Stroud, he looked great in college but he had all day to throw the ball with two great tackles protecting him.



  • Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭ Rosalie Wailing Pennon


    Is Mahomes the best QB in the league with the CV to back up his talent - Yes.

    But as Christy says, Mahomes is off the board & cannot be gotten by any other team so their only alternative is to figure out which other QB gives them the best chance at winning a SB.

    Eagles think Hurts, Ravens think Jackson, Cardinals think Murray, etc...If one of those teams win a SB the contracts will be worth every red cent.

    That's before we get into the overall market and inflation.



  • Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭ Rosalie Wailing Pennon


    The best QB in the draft is the third one off the board!

    Well done, Colts.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,983 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    And 3/4 QBs so far Richardson goes 4 to the Colts.

    Wonder how long until Levis comes off the board



  • Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭ Rosalie Wailing Pennon


    Lions have their eye on Gonzalez and assuming he's going to drop to them?

    Either very brave or immensely stupid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,983 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Vegas could take a CB



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,983 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Interesting to see now how long Will Levis and Jalen Carter stay on the board



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,934 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,934 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    He's risky and ideally he'll sit for a year. They need a veteran to at least play the first half of the season. He's not a day 1 starter, there's massive talent for sure though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,934 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    For me as regards QB the best value is Tanner McKee. He's expected to be a third round pick. He's a pocket passer, 6'6" tall, he's played under center. He managed to look good on a poor Stanford team. He's extremely fast at checking down and getting rid of the ball and he played a lot under center. The downside with him is his religion which is Mormon.



  • Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭ Rosalie Wailing Pennon


    Both Bears and Eagles apparently very big on Carter so I reckon we'll find out soon enough. Skorinski to Chicago I reckon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,983 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Eagles and Bears swap 9th and 10th pick. Eagles on the clock



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,934 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Robinson at 8 is ridiculous. I think you could have traded down 5 or 6 spots and still got him.

    Lots of people raving about him, I see nothing separating him and Gibbs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,934 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Jalen Carter dropped a long way due to the racing incident, there were some character concerns before that incident. I'm surprised he only dropped that far despite how talented he is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,934 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Two tackles gone by pick 10, not looking good for the Patriots at 14. If Skoronski falls to us I'll be delighted, of course Bill could do anything, you just never know. We really need at least one OT.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,983 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Two RBs going early



  • Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭ Rosalie Wailing Pennon


    Cardinals GM "Doesn't foresee it happening" (Hopkins being traded).

    Quite possibly standard negotiating carryon but at least I can carry on having fun trying to see who Ravens would pick at 22 i.e. trying to suss out what CBs will be left.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,112 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    All I want is for the Chiefs to draft a WR first up



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  • Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭ Rosalie Wailing Pennon


    Did Christian Gonzalez break into a convent and assault a dozen nuns this afternoon?

    Where the f*ck is he?

    Not complaining as we're floating toward pick 22 but...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    We've had plenty of people when he was drafted and through the tail end of his MVP year that didnt think he could play QB.

    During discussions about his contract you can still see those feelings coming through



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,983 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Bet the Patriots didn’t expect to pick him at 17



  • Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭ Rosalie Wailing Pennon


    Gonzalez is awf to Bawssston-ish!

    Shame he had to end up there but a class pick.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Have you ever negotiated before? You find a middle ground.

    We don't know what was the back and forth between the two groups, as the leaks were clearly coming from the Ravens side, and the deal Lamar ended up with was better than what was on the table that people were shocked he turned down.

    Lamar did fantastic out of this and saved a lottery win of dollars by doing it himself. Add in he leveraged a more QB friendly OC and OBJ into things.



  • Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭ Rosalie Wailing Pennon


    A lot of agents definitely loosed their tie and opened the top button when they saw what Lamar and his mother managed to do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Draft as weird as expected.

    Looking at NFC competition, delighted Richardson didn't end up in the NFCW but equally annoyed Carter fell to the Eagles. Lions look like they're making a mess of their chance to become contenders.

    On AFC, steal by the Patriots and Texans acting like they are one or two guys away while their team is a shambles - not a good sign for Demeco.



  • Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭ Rosalie Wailing Pennon


    Two picks to go...

    Local lad Deonte Banks and studly Joey Porter still on the board...can the Ravens resist selecting a CB?????

    Zay Flowers and Smith-Njigba also still about...

    I'd be delighted with any of those four or Hopkins. I'm being spoilt tonight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    There will be plenty of media who rely on agents for tips who will be crapping on the deal over the next few days.

    It ended up being a fair deal for both sides - Lamar got elite tier money like he deserved without getting to full crazy Watson money (that I believe Lamar would be able to get if he hit the same quasi FA situation).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Having said I'm happy the Seahawks didn't get Richardson, they've done a lot more with their picks than the Lions did. Nice CB and WR.



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