The Dominance of Dublin GAA *Mod warning post#1*

Again, you are assuming that population makes no difference to results. It does, and Dublin are such enormous outliers in terms of population that they should be split for that alone. A cost cap is a good idea, that should apply to all counties, with maybe some consideration for variables like mileage. Right now Dublin have been getting millions more than other counties, both from the GAA and AIG- this is unfair in and of itself, and when it is combined with their other advantages, it is completely untenable. The asterisk is certainly there- people both within and outside of Dublin rightfully judge their achievements as less impressive than other counties, because it is well known that they came off a platform of unfair advantages.

Good question- I'm genuinely unsure. I would say at least four teams but there is certainly an argument for even more. As I previously said, the issue really is that Dublin have all these problems in combination. If Dublin just played almost all consequential games at home- fine, we can move them out of there. If Dublin just had a massive population- fine, we can just split them into two teams. If Dublin just were overfunded for decades, maybe we could just equalise funding from all sources for 20 or so years. But take the scale, nature, combination and duration all these unfair advantages together and you realise no single measure will be sufficient- at least a four way split is now necessary to save the game of gaelic football and help all counties.

It's been proven that the games development money helps the Senior side- both because of the reduction of opportunity cost, and the improvement in the standard of football at all levels. This doesn't even factor in the money from the Sports Council or their sponsors. So for rational, non-bitter people like myself and most GAA supporters, there absolutely is an asterisk. Dublin didn't win fairly.

Yes and all has been sorted 😁

At least Colm has a bit more on his plate than he might have thought so we may get a rest from his split Dublin up as a solution for the games ills .

"Dublin werent unfairly advantaged. They got funding to do with their population a bit above compared to others but not to the point it was unfair"

Between 2007 to 2017, Dublin received almost €17m in coaching and games development grants. Cork (next highest county) received just €1.1m in the same period.

Ive no doubt it was money well spent, and a lot of people benefit from it outside of the county success, but you can pick any metric you want - number of clubs, number of active teams, number of registered players, population etc and it all adds up to special treatment for the richest county in the land.

But you refuse to acknowledge/admit that there will always be population differences and significant ones at that between most counties and that you are changing Dublin based on population then you must change other counties as well particularly if you want teams to win titles fairly and want what is best for gaelic football.

Dublin has had highest population for years and it won them feck all. siginficant numbers in Dublin either cant give a **** about GAA, gaelic football or live in Dublin but play, support etc teams/counties elsewhere on the island.

And your idea about splitting Dublin into 4 means resources have to be spent getting all their development systems right etc etc. None of these moves would make a difference to a large number of counties anyway.

oh there will be plenty more of this stuff in the coming months, These lads have major chips, but let them rant away, a split will NEVER happen.

You left out the Dublin players have no jobs.

Why should Dublin be punished because counties like laois can't get there house in order

There county board have been involved with multiple controversy over the years, good coach's removed or pushed from their jobs the way laois gaa has been run a result like last Sunday was bound to happen

No splitting Dublin helps your County , keep dreaming lad

It was several different generations of players tbf. The issue is that Dublin's population means that for every player with inter-county potential that say, Meath, has, Dublin will have around 6 or 7. Then the Games Development funding that Dublin were favoured for means they will be able to develop way more of these players to the requisite quality. Then playing games at home means they are more likely to beat teams. These are just some of the ways that Dublin's unfair advantages benefit them to the detriment of the game as a whole.

So we can see here again for this issue, the common theme of the thread has reasserted itself: splitting Dublin alone will help the game in Leinster as with everywhere else.

Even if that was true, and I don't believe it is, it doesn't justify the funding that Dublin have received, and continue to receive. Dublin may not have historically taken full advantage, but it doesn't mean they weren't unfairly advantaged (They were already by far the most successful county in Leinster even before the enormous funding started). To use an example, say a team in the NFL started with a 4 point headstart on everyone else every yeah- they may not always win, but they are clearly unfairly advantaged.

Splitting Dublin would help the underperforming Leinster counties now as it would increase their faith in the integrity of the competition, which would attract players to work harder all year. It must be difficult to motivate yourself now when Dublin are so blatantly unfairly advantaged relative to everyone else- another reason why a split would be good for everyone.

Why would you go by number of clubs? Regardless, it's been proven repeatedly over this thread that by whatever metric you use- funding per player, funding per club, funding per head of population etc, Dublin have been completely and unfairly overfunded in recent decades relative to everyone else.

it's been obvious over this thread , all you want is for Dublin to be split , so your own County has a stronger hand , you dont give a monkeys about the Leitrims sligos etc

You might have a point here but you have to acknowledge that when dublin were going bad (by their standards) they were given a gold plated rescue package with the funding to back it up. That's a luxury that was never afforded to any other county.

Other counties are also not in a position to employ a full time chief executive and a full time commercial officer, like Dublin are. Other counties also don't have the facility for putting full time coaches in every club in the county. There is a huge difference between having a professional coaching/management team vs the goodwill of volunteers