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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,007 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    They chickened out of it because of the cost and there lack of an Imagination.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,007 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    We kind of got that a little bit with Chief O'Brien and his family but more on a space station than a starship.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,232 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,007 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Ye I take it will be a straight to streaming or T.V movie and not an actual big budget movie you can see in the cinema which is OK with me as I will more than likely not watch it anyway.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭ilovesmybrick


    Yeah, hopefully it's a once off thing and then they move on from the 32nd century and Discovery nonsense. Straight to streaming film rather than a series is the best compromise I suppose.

    Hopefully the Academy show quietly vanishes into production hell and we can move forward a bit more along the vein of Picard season 3



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,645 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Ide be aiming a lot higher than Picard season 3. Once the memberberries are stripped out it's actually no better than Discovery.

    Speaking of movies all the Picard seasons should have been movies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,801 ✭✭✭Rawr


    I'd agree that Picard seasons could be made into movies. Especially the current season. There's a lot less silly & pointless filler, like in Season 2 (remember that time-wasting FBI story mid-season?) but I there is a lot of fat that could have been trimmed away to make it into a 3/2-hour story. All of the Riffi stuff could have been binned since it seemed superfluous and if the intention of her scenes was to introduce Worf as her Intelligance partner...they could have just done that another way in minutes. Beyond her being Seven's ex, she's got very little reason to be there, and if you could edit her out I don't think it would matter too much to the plot.

    I'd concure *a bit* that without the TNG references this would appear somewhat Discovery-ish. However I do get the sense of a crew that this working together as a team to solve a problem, which was always at the heart of a good Trek story. Discovery ditched that to make Burnham use plot-magic to single-handedly save the galaxy every other week. As long as the remember the "teamwork" bit and forget about the "magic heroine" approach, it could still be good without TNG cast near it. This current batch of Picard, and SNW gives me some hope that this is still within their abilites.



  • Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Very much, this is ensemble with Picard as the core.

    Discovery had Burnham just be everything, everywhere, all at once... She'll end up the hero in Yeoh's film too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Finale coming up.

    Feeling a bit hyped in advance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,615 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    For a Star Trek related trip down memory lane on Monday morning ITV4 will be showing Minder episode Aces high and sometimes very low... with an early appearance from Marina Sirtis.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Site Banned Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Bobtheman


    Are they really thinking of rebooting voyager? What form?

    Dreadful idea

    I watch the odd episode of voyager. It has good episodes but overall the characters are boring bar about 2.

    Perhaps 3

    Plus they had two good ideas - a mixed crew of maquis and star fleet plus lost in space.

    The execution of both were terrible



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,435 ✭✭✭corkie


    @Bobtheman Are they really thinking of rebooting voyager? What form?

    Speaking of story, the Star Trek: Voyager revival will clearly need a very different premise than that of the original. To base the new series on the older heroes getting lost a second time in the Delta Quadrant or anywhere else would simply be laughable.

    Think I linked that post in thread earlier in the month?

    Just talks and nothing has been confirmed as of yet?

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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 26,276 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    I could see a lot of sense in a Janeway series. They always wanted to tie up the loose ends from Voyager, and didn't get to do so within the limits of it. The reception for season 3 of Picard makes it a much easier sell too, plus Mulgrew is already back into Trek via Prodigy. But the success of Picard season 3 also means it'll be template that any continuation would be forced into.

    And it's not like Avery Brooks will return. He's some kind of blend of eccentric hermit/asshole now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,645 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    If it's the Matalas quotes you are talking about it sounds more like Legacy will have episodes based on following up on DS9 and Voyager stories.

    It makes sense with the TNG cow now milked dry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,709 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    They'd want to be careful that a Janeway show doesn't step on the toes of Prodigy. They've done a great job with their first season.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Site Banned Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Bobtheman


    I dont think its fair to Call Avery Brooks an asshole. He is just retired. Somebody claimed he was blacklisted -no pun intended but I have heard no direct confirmation of that.

    He did seem high as a kite on that series-the Captains,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,208 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    I like Prodigy a lot but it exists in an alternate universe/timeline in my mind. Just too many inconsistencies with the live action canon for my head canon to resolve.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,645 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Cartoons just do things differently and in a way that's hard to join up with the live action.

    For instance I refuse to believe any starship has people sleeping in corridors.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 26,276 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    He definitely has a poor reputation, known for being difficult to work with, with a bad temper. It was Cirroc Lofton who described him as being blacklisted, but it seems to be less of a political McCarthyist style blacklist, and more a case that no-one will work with him. He's shown other odd behaviour, but it's hard to tell if he's being an asshole or just really odd, like insisting his castmates address him as Mr Brooks only.

    But in the case of the Captains, the behind scenes reports claim that Shatner was being obnoxious to him, so he was winding up Shatner with his responses.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,007 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    It's a pity about Avery alright. I would have loved to see him have a successful career after Star Trek but I guess it was not to be. I would love all Star Trek actors to have long and successful careers after their Star Trek shows.

    Would love to see Benjamin Sisko come back somehow but I guess it is never going to happen.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,435 ✭✭✭corkie


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Further to the above; the same rendering company also did this little 2 minute short, which were it the actual epilogue of Generations, might have saved it from completely ignominy.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,435 ✭✭✭corkie


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,007 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    I just came up with a great idea. I was just watching the end of Star Trek Veyobd tgere and believe it or not It has been 7 years yes that is right 7 years since the last Star Trek Film :(.


    So my idea is they continue on from there but that what's her name your one from the planet in "Beyond" is at least a commander now or maybe even a Captain and base it with her crew but have the Enterprise involved somehow too.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,183 ✭✭✭nyarlothothep


    I miss the semi awkward social interactions of old Trek. In nu-Trek the characters are too snazzy, sassy and sarcy. In Picard for example, none of the characters, for example, Worf, feel like their old selves where there was that level of formality, high minded idealism and ultimately awkwardness. Marina Sirtis was effectively playing herself rather than Troi. Picard would have been better if we had the old crew back for 3 seasons rather than one short mission as well. The uniforms also looked too cool e.g. leather biker jackets. I would have preferred Picard et al to be wearing standard issue Starfleet uniforms. Hell, they should bring back the spandex catsuits.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,645 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    They were basically all too old or fat for the uniforms. They still could have found something better than those stupid jackets though.

    I agree about the sassy thing. Even SNW which I mostly like gets really annoying because of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,615 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Bring back the manskirts, I say.

    As to the style of dialogue, I dunno. As long as characters behave broadly in keeping with their known personalities, I don't see a harm in updating the dialogue style.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,289 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Yes, we should have no character growth whatsoever and nothing should ever change. A character who was somewhat socially awkward and who was played quite a lot for laughs ("Prune juice! A warrior's drink!") should still be socially awkward around his friends and comrades, three decades later, despite having been an officer, a diplomat, an ambassador and a spy.

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    This is the fundamental problem with a lot of these "legacy sequels", right there. The worse kind of nostalgia dictates that one's favourite characters must stay locked in amber, having never changed across the years. Perhaps exemplified lately by Han Solo in Force Awakens: it was set 30, 40 years in the future yet Solo was still playing Smuggler, after all this time and being a General during the Revolution? The script bent over backwards to justify it... oh he was soooo distressed by his son going to the dark side, Han went back to old ways? A limp excuse so the toybox could be the same.

    That said, the Picard show really got that wrong at the start: I did defend Picard's differences in Season 1 at the start; of a man lamenting losses and time passing. But as the show went on this seemed less like a character arc and just a brazen ignorance of the titular character.



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