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Tesla Model 3 - V3.0

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,580 ✭✭✭eagerv


    Thanks, paint work should be pristine underneath wrap, a good selling point..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,056 ✭✭✭sk8board


    The reason for the price cuts is that Tesla is manufacturing more cars than they can sell. Once they announce the midlife refresh, demand for the current model will drop further, which is when you would usually see price cuts to shift the older ones already manufactured. For certain, the refresh model and the runout model won’t have the same price.

    Look at demand and production for the ID3 since VW announced their refresh, they’ve dropped most of the production of the current version id3 and pushed hard on the id4. Tesla don’t have that luxury, as they only make 2 cars, unless they shift all worldwide production to the Y, but they wouldnt have enough demand then either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Certainly am, would you recommend? Thinking that with grants on the way out it will never be this cheap again



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭MightyMunster


    Poor owner, sold my 201 blue SR+ for nearly that much a few weeks ago 🙁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,056 ✭✭✭sk8board


    existing Tesla drivers taking the hit in order to shift excess production. Great for the laggard mass market buyers.

    The way people have been equating ‘cost to change’ as being similar to the destruction of the cars value is simply not how economics works. That logic only works if you choose to ignore any money paid in the past, and the value of the time that it took for you to earn the additional money needed to buy the same product at a higher price.

    At the worst case scenario side of things, buyers of a M3LR, in a colour, since the grants ended July 2021, and probably on finance, are about ~€70k all in.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,248 ✭✭✭creedp


    Just like depreciation is a normal economic impact of car ownership, especially when buying new. Prior to the EV revolution followed by the impact of chip shortages / the Ukraine war it was pretty normal to experience a destruction in asset value of anything up to 20% in the first year or between 40% and 50% of asset value after 3 years. The usual line during this period was that cost of change was the important thing when changing a car as this is what hits a person cash flow. I think people have come to almost expect minimal depn over the last couple of years but it's likely the long term depn norm will reestablish itself in the short to medium term.

    Dont get me wrong I fully understand why people are upset that the value of the investment in their new Tesla has been reduced following a decision to significantly reduce the price of new models but all I was saying is that if you stick with the Tesla M3 / MY, then the impact of that reduction is somewhat mitigated.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,356 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    100%

    People posting thinking that value retention was here to stay. 50% of value after 3 years is the norm and should be expected going forward.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,141 ✭✭✭wassie


    Tesla have shown over a number of years that they don't follow the motor industry norms when it comes to pricing and model updates. As one of the first to impliment direct sales via the agency model vs the dealer model, they have adjusted their pricing both up and down without notice.

    Some peeps have lost out when pricing goes down. But others have benefited also as Tesla also allows potential buyers to lock in pricing at order time. Most other manufacturers will pass on price increases if the price goes up after an order is placed.

    Also they don't follow a typical model update cycle like their competitors as well. Updates are introduced into manufacturing at times to suit themselves.

    In my own experience, I ordered an SR+ in Sep 2020. Without any notification or advice, the actual car I received in Dec 2020 was the 21 refresh model which came as a complete surprise.

    [Edit: typos]

    Post edited by wassie on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,248 ✭✭✭creedp


    That was a very decent price to get for a 3 year old M3 on a private sale. Ive just seen a dealer dropping a 192 M3 LR by €4k to €39,900 which isnt a bad price for a now €50k car. I think asking prices for 20/20 M3s are currently too high but we'll see what transpires over the next couple of months



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,200 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Yeah, I paid something like €49k for my SR+ in March 2020, and have absolutely no qualms about it being realistically worth sub €30k just a month over 3 years later…

    If I was planning to sell it now, yeah I’d probably be a bit more upset over it, but as I’m in no hurry to sell it and upgrade it I couldn’t really care less what it’s ‘current market value’ is.

    I actually still have a Model 3 on order since last year (when they cost €54k) as I thought the price was going to go up again… (and at the time Tesla offered me €44k for my SR+ with 67k km on it), but in reality I have no interest in upgrading at the moment (unless someone offered me €37k+ for my own car, which is not going to happen)…. So I’m happily all in with the current car for at least the next 5-7 years or so….


    And as a side note (and if I’m doing funny maths in my head), we paid off our 20 year mortgage in only 9 years (finished it last Thursday), and at the outset our interest liability was to be €81k, and it’s ended up at only €32k, so we’ve saved €49k in interest by regularly overpaying and finishing it early, so as far as I see, that means the €49k we paid for the Tesla is effectively free money that we’ve saved by kicking the sh1t out of the mortgage….



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,852 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Tesla are disrupters....and have plenty of disrupting left to do, they have plenty of scope to drop prices further



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭fricatus


    Anyone else notice an increase in forward collision alerts since the recent software update or is it just a coincidence/my bad driving?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I think that rings a bell. I even had a few brakes in situations that previously wouldn't have triggered one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,200 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I’ve only had a few, and not recently, but the car auto braking is quite jarring to say the least…..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,141 ✭✭✭wassie


    Had one earlier this week that I did think came on a bit early......and it was jarring.

    But not complaining as its better any day of the week than facing a whiplash claim.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 496 ✭✭Gile_na_gile


    Had a few in first month of ownership prior to latest update, and since then a few red lights and sound warnings for parked cars. Surprise one was for a pedestrian waiting to cross the road at a turn. He was standing at the kerb so the car did the honourable thing and slammed the brake when it detected the human. (Human just looked on bemused and did not cross.)



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Definitely sounds like the sensitivity was tweaked a bit! Fair enough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭antfin


    Yes, the latest update seems to alert quite a bit when I'm in an estate and approaching parked cars and occassionally when someone is crossing a road a good distance ahead. Maybe it just thinks I should drive slower but it feels like having a nervous passenger sometimes!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭daveyjoe


    I’m about to order a Tesla Model 3 and I’m considering getting it wrapped. What places are recommended for a good quality wrap and what should I expect to pay? I’m in Cork but willing to travel to Dublin if it makes sense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,200 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I think the going rate is anything from about €1,500-€2,000 for a wrap….

    Plenty of places do it and I’m sure you’d even find somewhere in Cork that does it..


    Dont forget to use a referral link when ordering to get referral credits to use down the line for free charging or other stuff…



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,162 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    There is a crowd in Limerick called proimage that seem to do a cracking job. Look them up on Instagram if you are on that.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,356 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Check out Facebook for samples of companies and try get a recommendation.

    LM Autostyle and Wrap It Design comes to mind but they are Dublin and Carlow.

    As the lads have stated, use a referral link to order to get free store credits.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 248 ✭✭coil1985


    You hoping to get in before the grant being slashed? Been thinking the same.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,774 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Grant isn't really being slashed, only dropping 1.5k. Less than a Tesla price reduction.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭BONDIred


    How are people finding the tesla online trade in values?

    Do they offer low ball prices?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,356 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    It greatly depends on the car your trading in.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,852 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Not great (as discussed many many times), your only chance for a realistic valuation is a performance Tesla model or maybe and older S/X with free Supercharging. With any other make I'd go elsewhere (but try them anyhow)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭BONDIred


    Looking to trade in 161 5 Series, being offered just over 10k.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,356 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Have you tried private or zucar, webuyanycar type sites ?

    Autobuy is an EP Mooney company so could check them also.

    i just sold a 142 F10 520d Msport plus in white for €17,500 so 161 should be up there depending on spec privately. So I’d expect 14-16 trade maybe?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,056 ✭✭✭sk8board


    To save you the Boards search - Yes, it’s a low ball offer.

    Imagine the lowest offer a total chancer would message you on adverts or DoneDeal, and then go way way lower :)

    they don’t want your car - It’s already pre-sold to some second hand car dealer before they even take it from you.

    There is literally no reason to ever trade a car in with Tesla.



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