Tesla Model 3 - V3.0

mfceiling · 14-04-2023 09:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120478981#Comment_120478981

Went up this year to over €500. I went into AXA and the lady brought it down to €440. Only €100 more than my van (3rd party fire and theft).

creedp · 14-04-2023 09:58PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120479055#Comment_120479055

Thats very reasonable. I pay similar for a 2017 180bhp 2L diesel. Can't really understand how insurance companies have managed to get away with loading premiums for 'big' engines for so many years

sk8board · 14-04-2023 10:02PM

mad that we’re predicted a price drop yesterday (or pause production, which wont happen according to his lordship).

inventory popped straight up instantly in April, after the end of Q1 delivery push, just like it did in early January, and right on queue there’s a price cut, to make Q2 analyst expectations and prop up the share price (remember that musk is a CEO and has fiduciary duty to shareholders, not existing Tesla owners).

Tesla have an obvious demand problem, not a supply problem - and now we all expect price cuts when inventory becomes unsustainable

European inventory, by day

sk8board · 14-04-2023 10:07PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120477317#Comment_120477317

I tracked this in the thread back in Jan pre and post price drop.

jan 13: 46 listings on carzone and cheapest was €42k

jan 31: 72 listings, about 25 lower than €42k and cheapest was €32.5k

i have a good friend that swapped to a Y and sold a 201 SR+ with v low miles for €31k privately, so I think the market will be €30k now if that’s what you’re after, you just have to be quick

Foreign Sports · 14-04-2023 10:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120478103#Comment_120478103

Apparently the M3 P suspension has been softened off since the 2021 facelift.

Bjorn speaks about it in the below video;

https://youtu.be/QdMwGJBFUd4

He also discusses M3P vs M3 LR too..

Gumbo · 14-04-2023 10:52PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120478395#Comment_120478395

And to add to this, I’ve ordered 2 M3’s in the last 2 years. RWD’s. And 2 MY’s. And I’ve cancelled each one (one was a fire sale) as when it came down to it, I couldn’t give up the P.

Yes I’d like the newer version (mine is 2020), but I’m not prepared to pay for it as the current car does so much so well!

Gumbo · 14-04-2023 10:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120478981#Comment_120478981

Agree, to get the same level of performance you need something expensive. I was paying 400 for the M3P the last 2 years.

Bif · 14-04-2023 11:03PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120479346#Comment_120479346

Gumbo. How would you describe/compare the M3LR and M3P suspension in terms of stiffness/comfort? Thanks.

Gumbo · 14-04-2023 11:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120479398#Comment_120479398

Unfortunately I havent drove the MY with the updated suspension.

Foreign Sports · 14-04-2023 11:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120479398#Comment_120479398

Check out Bjorns video I linked above. He compares both.

rx8 · 15-04-2023 07:47AM

I'm asking on here, as the Model Y is probably too new to be asking on that thread, so do you M3 owners find that the Autopilot keeps you a bit too much to the left of the lane. Is there a way to "teach" the car to stay where you would like it to be. I just find it a bit too uncomfortable when it's passing traffic on the left. Now I'm well used to driving a much larger vehicle, but it definitely pulls to the left when I engage it and it's a bit unnerving tbh. Any thoughts??

(Love the Rainbow 🌈 Road and the Cowbells though)

Josieg · 15-04-2023 08:28AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120479914#Comment_120479914

I know what you mean as I felt the same especially when passing big trucks. I think it's more of a perception thing. I was and still am a central line hugger and have always used that as my reference point when driving. This means that I'm much further to the right in my road position. When I engage AP it "pulls" me to the left but I've consciously beeb check where the car is in relation to both lines and find it's bang on in the middle. Even on N roads it's pretty accurate. There is no way to change this position with AP so I've just gotten used to it. Have a look in the side mirrors next time you engage AP and you'll probably find the same.

rx8 · 15-04-2023 08:46AM

Oh it's definitely bang in the middle alright, and it's a fantastic system, but 6 inches to the right would make all the difference. Maybe it's just a case of getting used to it. The passenger door is so far away, it feels like I'm driving a bus, and I need to have that much room.

AndyBoBandy · 15-04-2023 09:11AM

For the first year I’d never use AutoSteer when in the overtaking lane as I felt it was always keeping me to the left of the lane and as you say it was a lit uncomfortable passing larger vehicles when almost hugging to the left of the driving lane, but then an update came out which ventured the car a lot more in the lane and it feels much batter and safer now when overtaking…. That was about 2 years ago and I’ve generally not had a problem with it since.

eagerv · 15-04-2023 09:38AM

I wish there was the option of changing your position in lane.

I like to use the autopilot on single lane N roads, would prefer the car stayed nearer the left line..

Jjohnrockk · 15-04-2023 11:47AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120478328#Comment_120478328

No way. Refresh is coming so they want to push the sales for old model. New model cannot be 35K.

jams100 · 15-04-2023 06:01PM

Can anyone explain why the 19" sports wheels work out as an extra 2,344 for the standard Model 3 (Total price for the car with alloys 43,074...same car without alloys is 40,332).

But

The same 19" sports wheel for the Long range work out as an extra 1,778 (Total price for the car with alloys = 51,514...same car without alloys 49,736).

Thanks.

eagerv · 15-04-2023 06:18PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120481736#Comment_120481736

Probably because VRT and rebate on VRT is on a sliding scale. So VRT is on total value of car and extras. The base RWD is on reduced VRT but with the wheels it goes into next bracket. The LR is already on full VRT, so only extra VRT on wheels.

Don't ask me at what value the reduced VRT kicks in..

Pop'n'Fresh · 15-04-2023 06:40PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120481794#Comment_120481794

The sliding scale is from €40-50k. Overly complicated imo but there you have it.

https://www.revenue.ie/en/vrt/calculating-vrt/electric-hybrid-vehicles.aspx

silver_sky · 15-04-2023 07:50PM

Just ordered the aero centre cap set for my 3. Not a big fan of the badge and individual wheel nut caps. I think this looks cleaner.

I quite like the full aero covers but nice to have an option if I feel like a change. :)

AndyBoBandy · 16-04-2023 11:14AM

So apparently the RWD-LR is making a return, and will be in RHD configuration;

drunkmonkey · 16-04-2023 11:30AM

What will it be here about 53k? That's with no grant for business.

What's the difference between the long range rwd and dual motor awd, besides the lack of an extra motor in the rwd.

silver_sky · 16-04-2023 11:43AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120483589#Comment_120483589

I wonder if LFP battery. The new Tesla master plan has Model 3 with LFP only.

My bet is once the smaller Tesla comes along the RWD (aka SR) will go away.

LasersGoPewPew · 16-04-2023 12:05PM

Those of you with children, how do you find the M3 in terms of practicality for buggies and rotating child seats? I don't have kids yet but am planning in the next couple years. I imagine it's harder to deal with kids in a M3 performance due to it being lower and less boot space than a MY.

I have sat in both MY and M3 - I wouldn't want to sit in the rear of the M3 for 2-3hrs as a passenger but then again it's not often that I carry rear passengers so I think I'm being overly considerate for the few times I would take my parents to visit family, which would be at most 30 minute drive.

There may be occasions where I want to do a 500km day round trip without charging. Is this possible for a M3P taking it easy? I'd be driving 120kph until Kinnegad then national roads the remainder at 80-100kph depending on traffic with occasional overtaking (500km round trip w/o charging is not a deal breaker though).

I seen on reddit that people are able to fit some 18 inch rims to their M3Ps, which I would prefer for comfort and those dreaded potholes. Bjorn tested a MYP with 18inch rims so it must be possible?

The M3P would be my first and probably last car that has supercar acceleration under 120kph, I'd probably go for a MYLR/RWD after 5 or 6 years.

Do Tesla normally have a M3P to test drive?

silver_sky · 16-04-2023 12:22PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120483690#Comment_120483690

No kids, but I'd suggest to go for a long range and you can spec the aero 18"s. Then after you get the car you can buy the acceleration boost in app if you want to.

slave1 · 16-04-2023 12:33PM

So had a long run yesterday on a 221 M3 RWD, 365kms driven, half motorway (at 110 on the car) and half cross country on mixed 80/100/120. Cool enough on the first leg and wet roads for half the return leg. Consumed 50kWh with overall average of 138Wh/km, AC on the whole time, two passengers and some extra weight on board both legs. 8% left when I got home so gives ~397kms range (ignoring the ~30km buffer range)

jordan191 · 16-04-2023 01:15PM

I've a 21 M3p and you can get 400km all day long but if taking it easy maybe 440-450kms on a long drive you can put 18' TSportline wheels on which would extend range I think with the reduced prices a base model white M3P is fantastic value at 53k, considering lads were paying that for a Rwd Model 3 last year

LasersGoPewPew · 16-04-2023 01:56PM

How do you find the 20" uberturbines with potholes and bumps in general? Are you happy enough with the ride quality?

I think I'd swap the 20" for the 19" sports wheels

mfceiling · 16-04-2023 03:34PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120483690#Comment_120483690

You definitely won't get 500kms from it. I had a drive up from Kerry to Dublin last week and I left on 91% battery. The journey is 318kms. I stuck it in the navigation system and it told me I could do it if I stayed under 105km/h.

First 120 Kms is normal roads and the last 200 is mostly motorway.

Foreign Sports · 16-04-2023 03:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120483991#Comment_120483991

They improved the comfort and softened off the suspension in 2022 with the M3P.

Check the video I linked yesterday with Bjorn where he discusses the comfort on 20" wheels.

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