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Tesla Model 3 - V3.0

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,796 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    Can you post that info from RTE on the grant ? It might be useful to anyone getting an EV in the next few weeks that wants to stall for a “232” registration.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,359 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    It’s standard practice. Once the grant application is made, you have 4 months to activate it.

    The problem with Tesla is that they can’t apply until they have a VIN and sometimes a vin doesn’t come until the last few weeks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,249 ✭✭✭creedp


    Tbh used prices hadn't reduced following the 1st price cut so not sure asking prices will reduce too quickly in response to latest reduction. Seems to me that asking prices are still linked to original pre-reduction price which is not sustainable, unless potential buyers haven't been reading the news!

    I'm still hanging on hoping for a 2021 M3 Sr+ for approx €30k or preferably a LR for ballpark €33k. Of course I'd really prefer the M3P but used prices are currently mad, even though the gap between an LR and P is now only €4k. In fairness the P is now a complete bargain for what it is, if only I didn't have so many kids😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,401 ✭✭✭Fingleberries


    It's in this article: https://www.rte.ie/news/2023/0414/1376891-electric-car-data/ (emphasis added by me)

    Electric cars are about to become a little bit more expensive after the Government decided that the €5,000 purchase grant on the cars would be reduced to €3,500 from 1 July this year.

    This will add €1,500 to the cost of all new electric cars currently selling for less than €60,000.

    Cars costing more than that amount are not affected as they were not eligible for the €5,000 grant in the first place.

    This decision could trigger an increase in new car orders being placed before the end of June. Once an order for a new car is placed the garage will have to deliver the car to the purchaser within four months to qualify for the full €5,000 purchase grant to be paid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,580 ✭✭✭eagerv


    I would imagine a 2022 LFP will soon be available at a realistic price, better equipped and more range than the SR+, unless you can pick up a late Unicorn 2021 one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 496 ✭✭Gile_na_gile


    You'll be waiting a year or two for those sorts of prices unless there is a freak 5 min and sold offer on DD. I would say 36k would be great value on a 2021 and 35k up for a 192 LR. I got a 2020 SR+ recently and value was around the 34-36 mark. With the new prices I would bring that down to 33-35k for a 2020 SR+, presuming about 40k km on odometer and no issues - private sale.

    If starting again (and I am delighted with the SR+), I'd probably hold out for a LR with sport wheels from 38k. That'll be next on the list in a few years! The other option is to wait and see the 232/241 refresh model and evaluate the pros and cons of what they add and take away. The old SR+ is an oddity now having lumbar support for passenger, non-plastic soft touch trim on all doors (if a bit prone to tearing), and a fast motor with low overall weight compared to the LFP or LR models. Plus it has USS.... I would definitely have preferred a 2021 LFP though since the rear perf motor more or less retains the performance, build is better, motorised boot door, and it has a heat pump. Only very minor con is higher overall weight.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,861 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    This is Tesla, they are signalling they are going for volume over price, downward pricing will continue and they will take the EV market over between the 3 and Y, once the 2 gets released it's game over folks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 766 ✭✭✭Bif




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,861 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Tesla are still making money at these prices, the more volume the more they can soak capital costs, they can drop a couple of k more.

    Competitors are screwed, they are likely break even at best with their current pricing, they simply can't compete



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,359 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭Edgardo.


    I hope not as then we will be at the whim of a Brilliant idiot.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,861 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    The 62kWh Leaf (with comparable options) is now more expensive than a M3, LOL!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,201 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I can get one in lithuania for €36k…..

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    (I’m currently in Lithuania in our holiday house, and debating whether to buy a car over here to save having to rent a car every time we come!!)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,778 ✭✭✭✭josip


    And a convertible at that...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,580 ✭✭✭eagerv




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭bf


    A white M3P at €53k must be the best value car out there today. I don't know how i missed it was grant qualifying earlier, Red M3P order now being cancelled!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,201 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Yeah, that’s cheaper than a White RWD was about 6 months ago!!!!


    Mad Ted!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 496 ✭✭Gile_na_gile


    Yeah, it seems my pricing is off. Can get new for 37k in France. So a 2021 LFP for 5.99?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭David Jones


    Similar dilemma, I had an original MSM 3LR from January, went for the 3LR Red 19" during the "fire sale" subsequently got Kelly'ed. Put deposit on M3 LR red early this morning before caffeine had kicked in. The red was coming in at €215 euro cheaper before the MSM got reduced further. Can't stomach €3200+ in the difference given the way prices are dropping, so have just cancelled the red LR which should be heading back into inventory. Beautiful car but just too much of a stretch with the reduction of the other.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭rx8


    I was wondering why you were around at 4.33am....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,778 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Are you sure bf? Will your back be up to the harsher ride? Reduced range? And in iPhone white of all colours?

    Just to be able to get to 100 in 3.4s every once in a while?

    Worth it?

    😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,201 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Yeah so much for holidays when I still wake up at 6am local…….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Foreign Sports


    Yeah White M3P is probably the way to go at €53,940.

    Only thing is do we think one will be on the next couple of ships. I guess worst case you'd still get the partial grant of €3,500 in July.

    The man maths are going overtime in my head at the moment for the 60k M3P in black still though even though it just misses the grant

    It's not that long ago that I ordered a Blue / Black MY RWD at €54,263 (last October) after they dropped from €65k!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Foreign Sports


    They do look good in red for sure.

    I can understand sticking with the MSM with the reduction.

    I saw lewis motors had a 222 M3 LR in MSM with 19's and white interior at €55k that I was half thinking about looking at before this morning.

    All dealers will surely think twice about taking Tesla's in the future with all the volatility at the moment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,249 ✭✭✭creedp


    Thats the way prices are shaping up currently, although I'd be very slow to pay close to €35k for a 3 year old sr+ when a brand new one can be had for just north of €40k. The way Tesla are going with prices reductions and a refreshed model on the way, I'd be thinking used prices should fall a bit further towards the end of year or start of 2024.

    Am I correct in thinking the M3 LFP batteries only became available late 2021?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,438 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    I'd say you'll be looking at between €35,000 and €37,500 for a base Model 3 in the next 12 to 18 months with the way things are going.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,996 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    As an M3P owner for 2 years now I can tell you it never gets boring when you bury your right foot into the carpet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,201 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I spent the guts of a full day out in Sandyford last year getting a few jobs done so took an M3P out for a spin……….

    I felt queasy afterwards….. The acceleration was just ridiculous.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭bf


    I’ll be smiling as my teeth rattle & my back discs are popping 😂



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,249 ✭✭✭creedp


    What's the insurance like on them? That kind of performance on an ICE would be almost impossible to insure. Hard enough to insure a 'big' 2L diesel lump with the mad torque😅



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